A use for natties


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Zuzu

2:50am Sep 11 2011

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Some may argue differently, but we all know it to be true. Hardly anyone wants naturals, they are too easy to get and therefore not special enough for the attention of anyone. And since they are so easy to get they have next to no value, and there is a large surplus supply of them in the game.

Before now there have been several steps taken to increase the value of naturals. The ability to set your hatch free before you finish it was the first big step, slowing the ever increasing flow of naturals into the game. The addition of the chance of deletion in the forest has brought the number of unwanted natural pets down in the game by a lot. Kir very occasionally asks for naturals, slightly increasing their usefulness. And now we have the two new features of egg rotting and failing which should even further decrease the commonness of naturals, making them not as easy to get anymore. But even still, hardly anybody wants naturals because of their limited usefulness.

There have also been a few suggestions before on how we might increase the value of naturals. Here I suggest something that may give naturals a use in this game. There may already be something like this in the works, but I might as well give it a shot.

My idea is this: a new type of pet quest, but this one only asks for naturals.

It could be another Uldavian, the poor equivalent to Kir. He wants to acquire natural common creatu (not seasonals, since they have an okay value already), for several possibly reasons. Maybe he wants to hoard them like a crazy cat lady. Maybe he wants to take them back to uldavi and sell them to the lower class citizens. Maybe he wants to make some nice natural stew. Whatever it is, it doesn't really matter. He just wants your naturals.

He could probably work a lot like Kir too, asking for a specific natural species and not asking for a different one until you hand that one in. For each creatu you hand in he will give you a tu reward, but it would only be like 1,000, and 1 point to spend in his prize shop, like Kir's shop. However, his prizes are rather lower class compared to Kir's. Maybe a few interesting toys, foods, clothing, maybe a book, nothing too fancy but enough to make you want to get points to buy things.

Basically I am suggesting Kir's hobo brother. XD

I think this would be a really nice use for natties, and that a boost in their value would be good, especially for newbies who hatch their first pet, it comes out natural, they think it is the most awesome thing in the world only to find out that it isn't worth bananas.

Support, argue against, suggest amendments, additions, or something else. :)



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snowflake139

3:00am Sep 11 2011

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LOLOL Kir's hobo brother. Support, although the quest would be ridiculously easy, so that might be a problem. I would love an easier version of Kir. xD



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\r\nYou currently have 13 Pet Quest Points.
Zuzu

8:05am Sep 11 2011

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It would be ridiculously easy to start with but that's why the prizes are not all that special. XP

But after a while the initial surplus of natties would be depleted, and it will be harder to hatch natties due to the new fail rate, so newly hatched natties will have a higher value than they do now, which is nothing. People might be able to actually sell them.

Probably it would be that the prizes cost a lot of points, or there are many many prizes to collect to keep the interest in doing the quest.



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Detneth106

8:25am Sep 11 2011

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I like this idea, a lot. Support! :D




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Pegasus

11:30pm Sep 11 2011

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Lol, I support, but the items he stocks in his prize shop would have to be expensive, like 100 points or more per item.



Kaleria

10:53pm Sep 13 2011

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I like this idea, though I'd like to throw out the option of him having good prizes, only you need something like a thousand points for them. Maybe if he was a scientist or something and had nifty books and weapons?

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lastfarewell

12:36am Sep 14 2011

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This is a wonderful idea. Natties are so undervalued, and with an option like Kir already present for the higher-valued pets, this would be a great way to take some natties out of circulation! 

The only thing I see that might happen is that people start hatching their nats instead of releasing them upon hatch, but as long as nattie sales stay above the 1k release price, I don't see why it should matter too much. 

If this idea is implemented, I hope there are some epic prizes involved, haha. 
Jenny

12:58am Sep 14 2011

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Support. Why not? Some say that Kir's purpose was to take pets out of the game. But since he targets only high colored creatu, why not have another NPC that targets only the hundreds of millions of naturals?



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Yaizhbeen

7:39am Sep 14 2011 (last edited on 8:13am Sep 14 2011)

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Interesting idea^^. Support.

Actually it doesn't have to give out any expensive prize. If it would give out a forum avatar for like 5000 points, and maybe a profile trophy, or a High Score list, or a few non-giftable non-sellable clothing items, that would be motivation enough for a lot of people to turn in natties. And we shouldn't have to worry about the "prizes dropping in value" and such, as everyone could only earn them themselves. And people would still want them, for just the joy of showing off^^.

EDIT: I just remembered one possible problem with this though. This would devaluate name tags A LOT. As to free up a good name, you could just hand in natties, until Hobokir asks for the species you have the name on, and voila, name deleted! It shouldn't be allowed in my opinion :/.
So I suggest that the pets handed in should not be deleted immediatelly but go to a "port" of some kind, like waiting they turn to go to Uldavi. (It would make sense, as Hobokir is a cheapo, and cannot afford the express-spaceship, also he would have to transfer way more pets than brother Kir :P) The pets would stay in the Port for a week or so. The Port would be visible to all users, like the Graveyard, so if you want to use it to delete a name, you should take the risk of someone else grabbing it (it would be kind of full I think, so it would be just as hard to search it as the Graveyard I guess^^). What do you think?



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I don't see a problem with it being exactly like Kir's quest in the name aspect. Yea, some people might abuse it, but people already do with letting their pets die to put their name on another creatu. This happened when Kir first came, and tags are still pretty popular so I really don't think changing it so the names could be stolen is necessary. Some lucky person could still snag that name...
Meelanya

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Like Yaiz said:
 "f it would give out a forum avatar for like 5000 points, and maybe a profile trophy, or a High Score list, or a few non-giftable non-sellable clothing items"<---total support




Yaizhbeen

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Username: It is hard to get Kir to ask for the exact species/colour you have the name on.He would sure ask for a few albinos on the way. But if the new one would only ask for natties, you could just give him like 40, get to the species you want and free up a name.Costs 50k at most.

Sure a lot of people use the Graveyard to free up names. It is free, because it has a risk. I am just suggesting that this new quest should have the same risk.



Zuzu

11:49pm Sep 14 2011 (last edited on 11:50pm Sep 14 2011)

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Wow, I love the conversation going on here since I have been gone.

Firstly, I love the fact that Yaiz has dubbed him 'Hobokir'. xD

It could be possible for him to have some semi-good to good prizes, but even 1000 points maybe too cheap, it might have to be like 10000 points.

A highscore list is a great idea, would really add more motavation for people to keep doing the quest if they want to stay on the leaderboard.

I like the idea of the non-sellable items for prizes, though sellable ones could still work too. Most people probabaly wouldn't even bother to buy them off other people because they can easily get them themselves while getting more points for the highscore list.

And yes, I can see how the name clearing would be a problem, but if something like what Yaiz suggested, a "port", could be implimented then that could easily fix that problem.

Thanks for the additional ideas guys. :)



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Detneth106

1:32am Sep 15 2011

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10.000 natural creatu? Unless some are worth more than a single point...o_o

10.000 actually seems a bit of a stretch to me, but then, I dunno. I don't work on Kir's quest so I have no idea how much time you spend on it/how much you spend on it.

Just my useless two cents. But I like Yaizh's idea too. ;P




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punchbuggy

3:04pm Sep 15 2011

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When I say SU, you say PPORT!

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lol love the idea.



dogpaw49

3:52pm Sep 15 2011

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i would like a new creatu in there. Maybe 1,000 or 500 points? or more!  like 5,000 or 10,000



Lycan

3:59pm Sep 15 2011

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Love the idea. Would sure be helpful in cleaning out my showroom. XD But then the Forest really wouldn't matter much to me...

But I like the idea of some of those clothes. S'long as they weren't Kir/Hobokir - themed that is. -shivers-



Mushrooms

5:57pm Sep 15 2011

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Support, but maybe you'd have to hand in more than one pet at a time like the egg quest? Great idea.

A new creatu in there would be cool, but it'd need to cost a LOT of points.



7650

6:34pm Sep 15 2011

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Support! There should be like a ULTIMATE prize, though. Like if you turn in 10,000 or maybe even a LOT more you should get a new creatu egg like the Ivik egg. It would probably have to be more points though, so it makes like the ULTIMATE prize. The prices on Natties would go up C:




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Zuzu

7:10pm Sep 15 2011 (last edited on 7:10pm Sep 15 2011)

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I am not too sure about a new creatu prize idea, because I think the Ivik is supposed to be the only pet species on Uldavi? If there was another pet I am sure Kir would be using that to exploit us as well, or will use it in the future.

Also we don't want to make the prizes too good, this is supposed to be Hobokir, he is broke and shady and has dodgy goods.

And if the prizes were good people might just do Hobokir's quest and not Kir's, and we want people to do Kir's quest to keep colored pet prices high.

However... I just had an idea... iviks are genetically engineered, and they probabaly wouldn't have got it right the first time... maybe there was a rejected species that didn't work out... ugly genetic mutants taken in by Hobokir.... nah... that could never work...



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