Renting Showroom and Shop Space


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Zuzu

2:29am May 13 2010 (last edited on 2:36am May 13 2010)

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Okay so we all know how frustrating it is when people get banned or abandon their accounts with all their pets with awesome names stuck in their showrooms or ranchers shops and making it so there is no way to ever get them.

Many people have tried to come up with solutions for this problem. The staff could already have a plan being put into motion in the future but in case they are not I thought I might just share my idea with you lot.

In entails the showroom being more like a boarding kennel for pets, where they get fed and looked after without you having to worry about it.

So I say we make it so you have to pay a small amount of tu, probably like 500 tu, every 6 months for your pets board. Not each pet, just 500 tu for all of them.

At the start of this 6 month period an option will appear in your showroom to pay your pets board. However, you don't have to pay it straight away, you can pay it at any time within that 6 month period.

But if it gets to the end of the 6 month period and you haven't paid, all your pets will be turfed out of your shoroom and onto your profile. You can put them back in, but you will have to pay the board within the next 6 months or they will get turfed out again.

This would make it so that on accounts that have been permanetly banned or abandoned evetually the pets will be put on their profile and die, freeing up thier much sought after names.

And I thought that for this to work, there would need to be a way to stop people just dumping their pets in their rancher shop to save them instead.

So for the rancher shop you have to rent shop room for every 6 months. It would be like your shop is situated in a mall and you have to lease that building to use it. It would have the same sort of payment as the showroom, 500 tu, and would work in the same manner, with pets getting turfed out if the rent is not paid.

To make things fair this would also have to happen to merchants in the same way. They rent out shop space, and if they don't pay their items will be put back into their inventory.

Upgrading shops and gallery could still work in the same way as it does now to make more space for items and pets.

Now the reason I say 6 months is that I think that is a fair enough time for people who take a break from their accounts or go on holiday. If they wont be comining back for longer then they will have to get a friend to take care of their pets or something.  It is also enough time for banned users to get in contect with staff to discuss unbanning their account so they wont loose out there.

I chose 500 tu because I know that if it is a high amount of tu that has to be paid people will complain and ob
ject to this idea, especially people just starting off. I thought about 1000 tu but then I thought that new users only get given 10000 tu to start off with so this would be using up a tenth of their initial tu *censored*uming they somehow can't make any more for a long while.

This is all just a thought that I had and I don't know if any of you will like it or not but please tell me your thoughts on it and thanks for reading. :)




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Verlwulfe

2:34am May 13 2010

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I think its a great idea, it would somewhat moderate and monitor whos active and who is not. The only problem I see with this is people not wanting to pay even the 500, as the showroom is a "Sanctuary" of sorts where you dont have to pay to keep things up.

 

I would love to see it used though, and utilized. So far as the rancher shop/merchant thing, that would be way too much to implement on all accounts and too hard to balance out honestly, but the showroom tiny fee is a great idea. I also say that if your account is banned, then its not abandoned and youre not coming back to it, that it should be wiped (yes I understand the difficulties in coding that and doing that, not saying it would be easy x.x) for the simple fact that those pets end up stuck on there and good names taken, and besides, it would bog down the system eventually you would think. Just my opinion though, and I would be more than happy to help with it.

Anrath

2:35am May 13 2010

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Wouldnt it be simpler to close inactive accounts after a period of 6 months?.

I know alot of sites will make accounts inactive after a 3 month period.

 I love this game, dont think I could ever forget that I have an account here, 6 months should be an adequate period of time, no logon within that time should automatically delete the account and redistribute the names.

Zuzu

2:39am May 13 2010 (last edited on 2:42am May 13 2010)

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Guys... people have talked about deleting inactive and banned accounts a lot but nothing seems to be happening with that so that why I have some up with this alternitive idea.

And after the first few upgrades of you shop you are paying way over 500 tu so I don't see how 500 tu over 6 months is that larger cost to a merchant or rancher.




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Verlwulfe

2:39am May 13 2010

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I wouldnt close out an inactive. I personally have left a game for more than 6 months, and decided to come back. Banned accounts however are iced and therefore shouldnt have a choice in the matter.

 

Hmm, maybe sending an email to an inactive would suffice, pretty much a *please click here to verify youre still alive* or the account gets closed?

Verlwulfe

2:41am May 13 2010

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Yes but the alternative involves stressing people who are choosing to stay on the game, plus would involve alot more work on staffs part. Again I agree with the showroom idea but even though closing accounts *is* a pain it would be alot more efficient than trying to code in all the extra stuff and timers onto live accounts, I would think anyways. Great alternative ideas either way though
Zuzu

2:43am May 13 2010

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If it is a universal thing I don't see why it should be so hard to code and what exactly do you mean by stressing and work for staff?

The price could always be lowered to something like 50 tu. But I think it is already quite a pitiful amount for this game.




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Verlwulfe

2:49am May 13 2010

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I didnt mean to offend, and 500 is quite low, im just saying the general pop of this game will just see it as *what the heck why do I have to pay this* even if its 1tu, then again I could be wrong.

 

What I meant by stressing is either way, in either closing said accounts or implementing your way, it will be more coding and more work, and unfortunatly alot of times things are overlooked because of this. Not because of laziness or not *wanting* to do it, but because the way things are are not actually harming anything. Granted it would be nice to have those pets either forrested or deleted, but so far there isnt a major *need* to. If anything, wait until the inactives/banned accounts pile up and take up enough server space, then there will prolly be people wanting to take a closer look at the issue. ^^ Your ideas are very good, im just saying there has been inaction due to these things, and not to mention theres prolly only a few people working on the actually foundation of the site itself and therefore would be more time consuming than if there was a crew on it.

Anrath

2:50am May 13 2010

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I have no problem with the amount.. even at 500 Tu, it just requires an automatic sc
ript either way... to either check that your account has been accessed or to check whether your Tu has been paid.

 I have only been fanatically playing for the last two weeks, but I do get annoyed at being told all the good names are taken.

 Hopefully something will get done, I'm sure the staff are looking into it.

 Its going to take me ages but I cant stop thinking about Black Easero's and Silver Ebilia's and an Amber Uilus lol.

 

Verlwulfe

2:55am May 13 2010

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Lol ^^ Yeah ive got an Ebilia army going, trying to get one of each hatchable color hatched or beaned myself ^^. And yes I do get quite annoyed at it as well, there are *plenty* of good names taken on banned accounts alone, let alone inactives. Again banned should have no say, they are banned after all and unless they are in limbo so far as being debated with a staff member then they should be the first ones looked at. Even implementing the 500 payment, we would have to do both. Banned accounts should be wiped ahead of time, due to the fact that theyre obviously not going to be able to make the payment, and will save a headache in the future and will be just plain easier to track inactives
Zuzu

2:57am May 13 2010 (last edited on 3:00am May 13 2010)

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I wan't offeded, I was just saying that 500 tu is low, but not too low, because I know that there would also be people on here arguing for the price to be signifigant so people wont abuse showroom use. So I was trying to get a balence between something that people would be willing to pay but wouldn't forget about paying.

And as for the coding it seems as though any alternative for this is going to require some heavy modifications to things. And staff seem to want to find a solution to this problem a lot, and are agreeing to deleting banned accounts, but they don't want to delete inactive accounts because that is not fair. So that leave pets on inactive account as a problem still, so I thought that this idea would address both pets on banned and inactive accounts while putting the least amount of stress on the users for what they have to do as well as making it equal and fair for every user.

Since this payment to the site is a lot like upgrading payments users shouldn't complain on having to pay if it is a staff decision, and also they are benifiting from this idea by being able to get the names that they have wanted and couldn't get before. Is a couple of thousand tu per year on here not worth freeing up names?




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Verlwulfe

3:06am May 13 2010

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In the end I think it would benefit everyone, and I for one wouldnt be opposed to it in the least.
Anrath

3:09am May 13 2010

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Not opposed in the slightest either, might have to borrow if I keep spending on pets however :P

FoxCrazy

4:21pm May 14 2010

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I agree.

The fee is quite small, and I'm sure not many people would ob
ject. After all, they are getting names they want. And I for one, don't think it'd be that much coding.

As far as coming back after that 6 month period, people often forget pas.swords and such, or they forget about the site in that time. Even if they don't, if this was implemented before they left, then they would know, and come back after a while to pay said price.

So, I think this is an awesome idea, well thought out, and obviously, Zu put alot of effort into this.




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paigecam

5:55pm May 14 2010

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I highly support this. ^_^



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