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Zada2011

9:58pm Dec 27 2011 (last edited on 9:59pm Dec 27 2011)

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How much would people be willing to pay for pieces like this.


Be conscious of the fact that a piece like this takes 5 to 6 hours for me to complete. 




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SyntheticBlue

3:42pm Dec 28 2011

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I don't think we need to know how many hours it takes you.  A commission could take you 12 minutes or 12 hours - what really matters is the quality of the finished piece.  That being said, I think 200k for the piece you're showing is a good price.


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Zada2011

4:57pm Dec 28 2011 (last edited on 4:58pm Dec 28 2011)

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The time and effort a person puts into a piece directly affects what it's worth. The amount of effort a person puts in also demands some kind of consideration. If I spend a large amount of time a measly 200k is not worth my time once I've done the math. 


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Bucky

5:21pm Dec 28 2011 (last edited on 6:04pm Dec 28 2011)

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 zada is correct; time and effort does directly affect the price depending on the opinion of the artist, but for most customers the direct product is more important. Taking this into consideration, i think 1 to 2 mil would be a good price for a piece of that quality if you cleaned the lines up a bit. <3 it looks good though. is it pastel?



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Zada2011

5:53pm Dec 28 2011

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Colored pencil and thank you very much. I may try using a different technique with the line work next time, the color pencil can't seem to achieve a crisp line. 


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SyntheticBlue

6:20pm Dec 28 2011 (last edited on 6:33pm Dec 28 2011)

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I'm not saying time and effort isn't important; however, for a customer what's important is the finished product.  Judging on my own experience, 5 hours is not a very long time to spend on one piece, therefore I don't consider it an extreme amount of effort. If that's different for you then that's fine. How long do you usually spend on colored pencil pieces? Knowing that, you can adjust your price based on time since you feel it's necessary.


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3mmique

6:47pm Dec 28 2011

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@SyntheticBlue - 5 hours is alot of time for one piece, 
four orders and a whole day has gone by.

Time does matter for artworks, if you've got someone just churning 5 minute
scribbles out just because they look decent and they make people pay 500k-1mil
there's no thought behind it all, but with something that a large amount of time
has been invested in it really is worth it, it makes a difference.

If I spent 6 hours on making a commission, and the person went 'Here, 200k for it'
I'd be furious, after spending half a day making a piece of art that then doesn't get
the respect it deserves for the time and effort put in.

If people only think of things as for what they look like, with no thought
what so ever into how much the artist has put into it,
it's a rather selfish way of thinking, in my opinion.

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@Zada - A good 1.5mil minimum  I would say, I think it's wonderful :)

The slightly jagged lines give it a bit of character, it's different.
I would more than gladly pay up to about 3mil or a bit more for something like that.






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SyntheticBlue

7:25pm Dec 28 2011 (last edited on 7:37pm Dec 28 2011)

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I don't think you guys are understanding what I'm trying to say.  I know time matters.  However, the customer only sees the finished product.  They don't know the process one goes through to create a piece of work.  I am, in no way, undermining the importance of this process.  Though, I do think that if you spend a lot of time on something and it still isn't up to par with your usual quality of work, it isn't right to charge more.

Apparently, 200k isn't a lot to charge for work anymore.  I didn't know this, so I apologize. When I use to take commissions on Res, 200k was a lot to ask.


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Zada2011

7:46pm Dec 28 2011 (last edited on 7:51pm Dec 28 2011)

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I think it just depends on the perspective of the artist. I not only look at it as tu, but at the tle="Powered by Text-Enhance" id="_GPLITA_1" style="text-decoration:underline" href="#" in_rurl="http://www.textsrv.com/click?v=VVM6MTQwNzQ6MTA2NTpjcmVkaXQ6ZDVkZjU5ZTliNzZiNWQyYmFlZTk5YmY1ZTAzNjlkMjE6ei0xMDQyLTExNTgzOnd3dy5yZXNjcmVhdHUuY29t">credit tu conversion, to compare my work to a more standard rate most artists would charge. I never expected to charge a full commission rate, however compared to the work that goes into the piece my time was worth next to nothing, less than a credit actually. It depends on the artist's perspective on how much their work and time is worth. 

I understand your side of the argument. I'll put it into context for myself. You spend five to six hours worth of work that you would be payed about 10 dollars for normally. You agreed to give him a lower rate based on the fact that he's having hard times. He hands you a nickle. Now if you put in five to six hours of pretty good work, and then only received a nickle, this shows just how little this person values your time and effort. 

I meant to put it in a better context for you to illustrate my meaning. I understand your point of tle="Powered by Text-Enhance" id="_GPLITA_0" style="text-decoration:underline" href="#" in_rurl="http://www.textsrv.com/click?v=VVM6MTQwMTY6MTIxOnZpZXc6N2QzMDhiYmYzMTg4ZGU2Mzg0NGMwZDQ4ZjVkMzhiZjY6ei0xMDQyLTExNTgzOnd3dy5yZXNjcmVhdHUuY29t">view, however I figured this would be a better example. There are no hard feelings, it's just that some have a different understanding of art and the time put into it than others.

Thank you for all of your opinions though. Your views are all appreciated in their own way, and I'm thinking that I may indeed put up commissions. 


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SyntheticBlue

8:03pm Dec 28 2011 (last edited on 8:05pm Dec 28 2011)

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It really is in the perspective of the artist.  When I made that original comment, I was thinking of how much time I usually put into my work.  I'm studying Studio Art at the university level - my studios are 8 hours a week, per studio.  I spend at least 16 hours per week working on projects for every studio course I take a semester.  (So, for example, this past semester I spent 32 hours a week working in and out of studio.) I also work slowly because I'm a perfectionist, so for me, 5 hours isn't that much time to spend on one piece.  However, I understand your point.  And of course, there are no hard feelings!  Different viewpoints are all just part of the creative discussion. :)


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Uwibami

12:03am Dec 29 2011

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To be honest, I have to say I agree with Synthetic.
I honestly spend about 15 minutes for my chibis (OR LESS) and they go for 1 mill each.
My most detailed shaded pieces take about 2 hours, and they go for 20 mill.
While time does play some part, not saying it's certainly out of the equation, quality is the overall determiner of the price. If it's not of a quality people want to pay a lot for they're not going to pay a lot for it, whether or not you spent 1 hour or 15.
Sorry if I sound harsh.
Ivypool

12:32am Dec 29 2011

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*Looks around* I'm really just looking. Why all the arguing?? I'm not doing this art stuff, I'd much rather not try to get involved with stuff I don't know how to do. Plus, my hand is better actually drawing than putting things on this PC. But, oh well. Don't mind me. I'm just lurking. ^^


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IpetsLE22

7:56am Dec 31 2011

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I wold give like 2 or 3 mil, but I don't have that much.


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Yoshi

3:54pm Dec 31 2011 (last edited on 3:56pm Dec 31 2011)

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I agree with what everyone else is saying, but. I guess it'd be a little redundant for me to say much more than that, since they've pretty much already said it all already.

I do really like your example there. Honestly, I thought it was pastel too. xD 'S nice.

I.. might not be the best person to ask, since I've really only done a few commissions recently and never buy anything at all, but. I'd say maybe three or four million.

Also if you want a cleaner look, you might try ink for your outlines. ;o
Zada2011

3:59pm Dec 31 2011

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OK thank you all for your input. I think I have a good idea of what I'll charge. Thank you for your thoughts.


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IpetsLE22

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Or I wold do around 5-10 mil, but I'm not buying art right now. I'm making it!

Your welcome!


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