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11:52am Jun 17 2014
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Think about it this way;
You go in and get hired at a fast food restaraunt - we'll say McDonald's.
McDonald's isn't going to keep you around very long if you come in and work one day a week when you're scheduled to work four or five days. Sure, stuff happens. You get pregnant, injured, something traumatic happens, etc.
In a way, Res is much more lenient in that a staff can be on leave for a few months and still be able to come back, so long as we're given enough notice.
But there's another thing as well - who on earth would want to hire somebody to work for them when they can't even muster up the motivation to come on regularly? That's... That really should be common sense.
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6:52pm Jun 17 2014 (last edited on 6:53pm Jun 17 2014)
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Yeah I see that. But still, before you get the job, you don't go to mcdonalds every day right? :p
EDIT: Unless... you really love the food.
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1:50am Jun 18 2014 (last edited on 2:02am Jun 18 2014)
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Well the person who is in the most is more likely to have better product knowledge as well as a better idea of how things are run. But personally I feel that in a lot of jobs on this site you really need to be in the know as to what is going on. Like for example for helper or support it helps to be aware of current glitches that are occurring most frequently or for a helper you need to stay updated about additional gameplay elements like if we added new ways to get effects or how to add soundcloud tracks to your profile.
Also rescreatu is a small community. As staff if it your job to provide something either in terms of production or service to this community, our customers. A very effective way to do this is to constantly keep involved with the community you are supposed to serve frequently. That way you can learn things, you can gather feedback, you get a general feel of what users like and don't like followed by what they see changed. This can insure that your actions involve finding a way to do things in the best interest of the community. How do you even come to decisions about what would be good for the community if you know nothing about it or have an outdated view of it from frequent long periods of inactivity.
McDonalds wouldn't be a success if it didn't have people constantly being around to observe and research and experience what their own company is about first hand. Without frequently getting involved with stores and customers they wouldn't be able to get a good idea as to how they are working, what is selling, who is visiting at what time and how many. Also any potential problems and successes. Product and company knowledge is a very easy way to get ahead when it comes to interviews for any job even if it's on a small scale job rather from the business side of a company. Nobody said it had to be every day. Besides we aren't a big company. All our staff regardless of job have to engage in both our individual little jobs and the big picture. We don't have market researchers like McDonalds to do all this for us.
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10:30am Jun 18 2014 (last edited on 4:22pm Jun 18 2014)
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Deleted. (I talk too much)
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11:27pm Jun 18 2014
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I know this is late, but thank you broken for your input. :)
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11:44pm Jun 18 2014
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I know a rejection rmail is not bound to happen to every applicant. Idk how long an app takes to be revised. But I do want to know; what is the period of time you can wait and hope to be hired? I know some people have been hired 6 months after sending their app. So after exactly what amount of time should an applicant just reassure themselves they arent gonna get contacted? 6 months to lose hope? o3o
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8:49am Jun 19 2014 (last edited on 8:51am Jun 19 2014)
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There really is no standard of time. It's been a year later and some apps have been pulled out of the archives and dusted off where the applicant was too young at the time, or there was not a need in the department at the time of submission, etc. So you just never know. It's always okay to keep submitting an app every time there's an announcement that positions are open, you can never submit too many times. I wouldn't submit if there isn't an announcement that positions are open though, simply because it's less likely to be looked at and could possibly get lost in the shuffle.
There have also been situations where we were unwilling to hire an applicant at the time they sent in an app, but a year later we saw a change that made us reconsider, so you just never know.
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11:07am Jun 19 2014 (last edited on 11:07am Jun 19 2014)
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Sorry I won't "beg" for a staff position by resubmitting. Imo that feels like a hassle to the people who review my app LOL But thanks Broken :P |
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8:26pm Jun 19 2014
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It's not begging to resubmit, not at all. It actually makes things easier on us and it shows us that you are indeed still interested, especially if the app changes or the site changes. It also shows the amount of thought that goes into the answers between one app and the next, and that you aren't just slapping down answers for the sake of applying ;)
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9:45pm Jun 19 2014
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Oh I know and that makes a lot of sense. I'll do keep it in mind xD
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6:26pm Jun 21 2014
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Lilindar, an artist, has not been seen since | | 2013-02-01 20:21:18.
How is she still staff according to the page?
I know artist are not meant to be online a lot, but its been like nearly 1 year and 6 months! | |
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2:02am Jun 22 2014 (last edited on 4:56am Jun 22 2014)
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artist don't really have to play the game xD
They could just do the art and send it to the appropriate person (via email, the boards etc)
I don't really see why this is an issue as long as they are doing their job |
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9:42am Jun 27 2014
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Artists usually join the site after being hired rather than the other way around. Being active on the site isn't something that is a requirement in the art department.
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11:10am Jun 27 2014
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That doesnt mean its unlikely that users get hired as artists, right?
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12:05pm Jun 27 2014
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Artists are hired on their ability. Usually from sites where a history of their work can be viewed, along with a portfolio, so that the style of their work can be seen, other places on the web they may have worked can be seen, etc. So if a user happens to fit the criteria that the art department is looking for then sure, they can be hired. 3mmique was hired just recently. =)
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12:08pm Jun 27 2014
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Oh....ok. Thanks broken x3
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12:19pm Jul 2 2014 (last edited on 12:20pm Jul 2 2014)
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I recently got rejected as artist. Though I asked one of them and told me I had the potential I just needed to keep practicing. Would it be too much to ask, that one site artist rMails me with specific feedback on what can I improve? I'd appreciate it greatly. Specific points of what I should practice/study more would be enough. (E.g. lineart/anatomy/etc) If desired it could be a no-response rMail. ;v;
Also I have a question, which might touch a nerve but. I really want a clear answer. Why do most staff "can't share" what happens with applications or how are they processed? Why are they limited on what they can say? Since apparently they are gonna start sending Rejection rmails now (or so i got told, got one myself) And people are gonna know who gets accepted and who doesn't. I mean I asked if the CM apps looked promising or not. And I got told that they can't share that. I mean, I don't understand the problem if they are not good enough, people would get the rejection rMail anyway no and hired CM would be announced? And it's not like I know everybody who applied? I asked for feedback on my app and got told the same thing? Not asking to send every single applicant feedback either. Idk I guess I kinda know the points that are evaluated since they are specified in the application page but. This is something I requested, since art works on improvement and feedback, but if I could get told that I need to practice anatomy or technique or I just have to improve my behavior (or something like that, cause that's part of being staff, no?) That'd be a great help. Cause I really want to be site artist, but I can't improve if I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I really want someone to be upfront to me, thank you.
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11:51pm Jul 2 2014
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I wonder the same thing about apps and processing.
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6:18pm Jul 5 2014 (last edited on 7:37pm Jul 5 2014)
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We decided to start sending out rejection rMails because of the massive amount of users who were upset at not knowing whether they were accepted or not. This is simply my opinion, but I would like to say that I personally think that asking for specific feedback on creativity position apps(like art and writer, maybe CM), while not really that bad, shouldn't be allowed past a certain point. I think this because it's sort of like asking for answers on the applications. I think it's okay to ask, and it should be okay to give feedback, but not so much as to where it's like the person whom you are conversing with is "training" you as if you were hired for the position.
It's like asking "what can I improve on?" if you get rejected for a service-department app, like Support or Moderator. Asking for feedback on these apps is like.. asking for the answers. xD I'm not sure where other staff members stand on this-- this is just my opinion.
I don't think it's bad to ask and receive feedback. Just not so much as to where it may be an unfair advantage over other users. Like Broken said, users are hired based on their abilities. And often behavior is looked at as well.
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Also, in response to Pretzel, it is going to be the user's choice on whether they reveal that they have been rejected for a position. We say we can't share things regarding applications because.. really we can't share it. I'm not entirely sure how to answer your question. These types of things are simply just supposed to be kept confidential.
And regarding your application, I think, just like Support and Mod and CM and all other positions, figuring out how to improve is best done on one's self. If you really look at your art and analyze it and start trying to closely imitate the styles you want, it should help in changing your own style to fit what you're going after c:
So that's why I think you've been getting the responses you have been getting. We can only reveal so much until it would be unfair and would kind of be like "giving away answers on the applications." For instance, having a ton and a ton of feedback on your art is sort of like a Support staff member telling a Support staff applicant who was rejected what they could improve on the application, and there's really no doing that without just giving away answers D; I hope this is making sense. Basically, it's like the equivalent to asking for answers to the applications, in my mind, at least.
I'm very sorry about your application being rejected, and I wish you the best of luck on improving your art :) |
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9:02pm Jul 5 2014 (last edited on 9:44pm Jul 6 2014)
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Nope sorry but that doesn't make sense to me. Is there even an "answer sheet" for artists? I asked for my ART feedback, nothing about my CM application. I'll put it this way. I'm not asking to be told the thickness of brush and how to cell shade to improve my art to match Res' style. I wanna know if I have to improve anatomy or something? I'm not asking for answers as if I was doing a test geez. I just really wanted to improve and maybe contribute to the site? But ok if you don't wanna share information with me (Which still seems weird?) If I asked for feedback (not saying every user should get feedback) it's cause i know im capable of taking it. I take constructive criticism, cause i do want to become staff.
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