Rescreatu - Virtual Pet Game

Breeding with Restrictions


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DaioSidhe

12:33pm Dec 31 2008 (last edited on 7:01am Jan 1 2009)

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I know there is already a thread and I know the pros and cons.

How? I was on Pony island and am on Wajas...I know what it does to the econony.

Con

1- Hundreds of rare running around. Really bad things.

Pro

2. Being able to breed/ rb makes you able to get that very rare pet sooner.

3. Suggestions...

1.Make breeding a locked things. Such you actually have to buy a breeding pass to breed anything.

a. On breeding past for all your rescreatu-around 200 to 400 Credits.

b. You need a breeding past for each creature you own! 50 credits to a 100 credits depending on rarety.

2.Make a time limited between breedings. Like 0% rares can only breed once an year. And only with the same breed. 

Commons- perhaps 3 times a year (every four months)

Or

Rares can only have 2-3 children

commons- 3-5 children

3  Only one egg for each breeding!

4. Make breeding a class trait? Perhaps only Ranchers can unlock it to breed up stocks. It makes sense to me...since being an Rancher would envolve breeding creatures as well as caring for them.

5. Inks can not be breed. If you breed to creatures that have been inked the child would be the color the adult was before the ink.

6. Health and hunger - The creatures breeding need to be healty  

Mmmm...open to any other ideas.  

Breosaighit

3:20pm Dec 31 2008

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Nah, I'd say if (which I'm sure it won't be) Breedng ever were a res thing, it should be purely for the ranchers, since we're the ones devoted to the pet business.

Well yeah if they were restricted wouldn't be a bad thing on how many times one creatu could breed (not a year) but within a certain amount of time. But also you couldn't breed a creatu within your own line (like selective breeding since it doesn't occur in the wild unless at extremes). 

 But hey, since it won't happen in Rescreatu, whoever plays this game and likes the idea of hatching and egg and raising it, if they wanted to create a game of their own and learn the coding (I'd play it) create a game where you can breed and hatch and raise, and trade and breed your creatu, with a system thats engaging, with great artwork, not corny, and unique as far as the worlds and the sort. I mean we could easily say pet games are mostly rip off versions of Neopets...no one can patent 'pet games' create one and give it a twist. Watch it grow, leech your pocket, and you've got youreslf a game I'd join. :). 




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DaioSidhe

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I forgot to add a few things...*goes to does that*
Ping

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If you were to breed 2 omnis together, then they will produce an egg yes? When that egg hatches and gorws up, you may breed that one, am I correct? If you were to breed a pair, then breed the offspring and the breed their offspring breed and then so on. Wouldn't that cause a problem?



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Breosaighit

2:11am Jan 1 2009 (last edited on 2:21am Jan 1 2009)

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The system can work if you put your head to it. Some people are so thrown off by the idea that they'll present any problem rather than solutions for them. We mention problems, and problems...but what's the solution? Every problem has a solution even if we do not see it yet. Most of the time the solution involves people being more open, but in this case it's just a matter of forming a system.

 Now...Visualizes this:

2 omnis------1 egg(breeds)+another(that can breed)

So are you saying that would mean there is no point in the limitation of the breeding limit? (Which is right that would be a loophole).

Well then the solution, make the breeding limit for the OWNER not the creatu itself (if thats what you're saying). Basically if you can feed and care and maintain the creatu you breed then you should have the right to do it, it's the way the ranching system works right now before they're frozen in shops. 

In real life (which I think its been established that because Rescreatu and (in general most games) are simple (simple versions of life which is why so many people play them) giving an example based on life seems silly) but I'm going to be silly for a moment and give a real life example. I lived on a city farm, which inspired me to have a family of animals of my own rescue, rehabilitation, and the sort. It's better not to breed animals that are in need of rescue since the problem is most of these animals can't find homes(like children), and most of them get torn from their families like slaves, which is why I refuse to sell any of the animals that do have babies. But since people breed animals, and if my animals bred it would be purely for them to have a family purpose, which I believe is different from breeding to 'sell'. I couldn't go oh lets breed this set, and then go off to breed another set, you need to make sure you can 1.) supply rooms and space for these beautiful creatures. 2.) then you'd have to give attention to these animals, individual attention, so that they aren't iffy around people handling them. They would need training, etc. 3.) You'd have to make sure you had enough food 4.) you'd have to make sure they were healthy, and so on. To breed and keep breeding the animal one after the other would create a 'mill' of some kind.

 In a game with breeding a much simpler version of a much more complex system we could say, in the sense of pretending Rescreatu would be that.

        1.) you must have a maintained space to breed animals.

        2.) training gives them value

        3.) enough food to feed them or they die

        4.) healthy is best (like the hospital)

        5.) We ourselves can only 'breed' any pair of creatu of the same species per (gestation and a period of time to wait after their gestation). To prevent 'milling'. (which aready happens now, in the area of 'culling')

         6.) The time that your creatu is pregnant you should have to 'care' for them and get them treated for anomalities (to make things more complicated and not a thing to take 'not seriously).

         7.) I think Ping mentioned somewhere else that you can't choose gender, that if you breed it would be random, and the only thing you can choose is a name.

         8.) To add there can be a 'birthing process' and if the baby...creatu...is born breach you have to 'buy' something before the birthing can continue.

 

In this way breeding creatu doesn't become just put two things together and voila! It could become a process that could cost...more than hatching an egg, and something you are limited on, and takes more time time than just finding an egg and hatching it. 

 

As for the concern with genetics, as I've said before.

1.) you could not selectively breed with your own kind, you would have to buy from someone else of a different lineage or of a different hatched egg of the same colour. 

2.) Genetics can be made random, it's a game. And in real life Albino+albino can easily equal =black, since black is a dominant gene, and albino is recessive + recessive. If we're that concerned about it, and think that (and I'm sure people could) eventually manage a pure albino line (which if made with restrictions would be hard to do but could be done), then we could make it so that genetics in itself is random and that an albino+ an albino wouldn't make your chances of getting an albino more or less, it could just mean you can breed your creatu...if we want to stick to 'simple'.

Then of course what would be the point if we bred creatu who were completely random gender, random colour anyway, and who didn't carry down any 'random' traits of their biological parents? Then the point would just be the breeding process which could also count as a 'hatch' if you chose to breed over 'hatching' an egg.

In which case not much about the system would change except that you have another form of 'hatching'. In another case, if creatu are born as eggs, then there would be no birthing process, you would be breeding two creatu who then lay an egg, and then the egg goes in the incubator//Hatchery...like all the others. So then...you'd really just have another way of getting an egg vs. getting it in the while(Wild*).

 

In which case would it really be worth it?

 




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Breosaighit

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But then when you think about it...we shouldn't have the right to choose the gender of an egg we've hatched. But birthing vs. hatching should be different, and since the creatu come in eggs, there's really no point in birthing and saying you can't choose gender, since that system is already put in place, because the game is less complex than the reality of life. People like it because they can control more than just 'giving it a name' to some extent. And right now the Hatchery process gives us that. So if we chose to breed 'live' creatu then well we could say that because it was 'birthed' the gender will randomnly select itself, along with its 'traits' (mysterious and the sort), and the sort. So you are less in control in the area of 'births' than you are in 'hatching' if you still wanted to make an exception and birth a creatu despite the fact that they lay eggs anyway.



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DaioSidhe

6:50am Jan 1 2009 (last edited on 7:17am Jan 1 2009)

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Mmm... Matters if you have two Omnis really. I have one egg and when I hatch it I would never sale him or her. Saying I chose female so I would have to search for a stud to get a egg. If I chose male I could place him for stud for a price or see if I could arranged to get one of the eggs. Mattering on the price it could take me a month to afford a breed. If we limited to two children per each omni and then made it you have to unlock the youngerst before you could breed it. It would make very slow growth.

Breo straight... Albino and Albino will always give you and albino. Since its a res, all the creature has is albino gens. If you breed and albino with a cream you would get a cream that carried the albino trait.

 

Ping

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Dude, if you sold your omni to someone that's intention was to breed it and it can no longer produce offspring, wouldn't that be a waste (or probably even scamming)?



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DaioSidhe

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Just noticed I forgot the n in Omni. ...Way to early.

Not if you wrote it in the deion. I'm thinking this will add a few more Omni's to the market not start a breeding mill of creatus. If it was restricted to class as that would not be an issue.


Frankly I also think Societys should get first crack on all new rare creatures. Since they are the explores they would be the first to find the rare breeds eggs. They in turn could sell it to a Rancher who would buy food and suplies from a merchant while raising the creatu. Then possible unlock the breeding, breed it and then sell the child on market. 

 

Roxas

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We probrably don't need to reply anymore since

It's NOT going to happen

and that's the fact

 If any of you want to breed stuff ?

Just go to wajas or something, Res already have it's OWN signature

and hellow x3








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Roxas

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We probrably don't need to reply anymore since

It's NOT going to happen

and that's the fact

 If any of you want to breed stuff ?

Just go to wajas or something, Res already have it's OWN signature

:3








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Breosaighit

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So it's not going to happen, It's fun to suggest and talk about! We get it, we've said it, Patrick has said it. We know, but it doesn't hurt to talk about ways that it could have worked, and why in the end it would be pointless even if it could for 'this' site. If people want it so bad I say learn programming and make it, and I'm sure if its good enough I'll play.

I wish people would stop comparing things to other sites. If we want to be that way about it we could say that Res doesn't have it's own signature, its just another pets site out of many, the only difference is it 'hatches' (oh yeah and a class, which btw this isn't the first site to come up with classes and pets, just the first site to do it as a 'pet oriented' site in itself), and its not the only site that is a hatch site. It's just the only site many of us here care to play because of the system. But in no way is it better than any site just because it doesn't have breeding in it...Just because a site has an aspect that another site has doesn't make it crap.

So we get it, Rescreatu is a hatching site, but It's a nice idea to entertain, to debate, to listen to. If anyone gets tired of it, just don't respond, look away. Or maybe if thats the way people feel anything mentioned in suggestioned should have another forum called "Things Rescreatu could have had and ways it could have worked but didn't, hypothetical." since it aint off topic, and it isn't really a suggestion, but its still a thought to entertain.




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DaioSidhe

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*Waves* Hey <3

It is fun to talk about... and figure out idea how a breeding site could work out.

It's just a suggestion.

Roxas

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Patrick said

"I don't think I ever said this won't happen for sure. But unless an idea can be made that prevents the worsening of the economy I would be open ears"

Good to hear :3

 








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DaioSidhe

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That is good...Hmm what do you think Rox? Would my idea work?
Roxas

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"I don't think I ever said this won't happen for sure."

100% nope X3








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dogpaw49

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it would be nice but the only ones that could not breed are omnis 



ReapersPlaymate

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No, thank you.



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supernovastar

3:27pm Jul 26 2011

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No support. I like Res without breeding.



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Dragonling

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This thread has long been finished. Necroposting (bringing up old threads) is not allowed.



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