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HappyBunny

11:42am Apr 24 2009

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That's so different from the current Leverene we have, but I like different :3

I agree with Ping on the shading being a bit to dark It has a beard :o female rabbits have beards since they pull it out later to line their nest x3 I don't think you needed to know that though O.o Overall though I like it.

The baby looks so darn cute, though I agree with both Trigun and Ping about not having the anatomy of a rabbit and that it needs to be fluffy around the neck, like in the last picture you posted up.

The first picture you posted could do with some work when comparing it to the third you posted up. Overall your drawrings are good and so are your ideas :3




Trigun

10:06pm Apr 24 2009

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That REALLY doesn't have the anatomy of a rabbit.

I think that if you tweeked the head a little, it would make an excellent new creatu. Like a lupine kind of creatu. But not a lagomorph.






Kitteness

4:13am Apr 25 2009

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I think that it would be better if it din't have the atonamy of a rabbit. The Leverene was never meant to be cute and cuddly. But hey, I'm not the decision maker here. =3



yeah i dont know either.

Nortriker

12:17pm Apr 25 2009

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A rabbit creatu that doesn't have the anatomy of a rabbit? Um, wut?

Cute and cuddly are irrelevant to it being a rabbit.  What you just said doesn't make any sense to me.




Balet

3:57pm Apr 25 2009

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Just so you guys can see where I was going with this, here's what I was thinking:

 

For the adult head, I thought the most muscular, largest rabbit head would look neat. Since that would best portray an adult leporid. But maybe even exaggerated so the Leverene is more than just a leporid. So I thought maybe a Flemish giant's head.  With the asserting eyes and forehead of a buck, but the more prominent nose of a doe. 

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Balet66/Picture2-1.png

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Balet66/Picture1-3.png

The brows stick up pretty far, though. I guess that's not too rabbit-like. I just thought it looked cool.

On the Leverene, the mouth was meant to become longer with each stage, and that's definitely not rabbit-like. It could be eliminated in the revamp. Again, I just thought it looked cool.

 

On the teen, I was thinking something along the line's of a lilac's head. And for the baby, something super cute. 

 

The original Leverene didn't have a dewlap (the thing under the neck). It's something female rabbits have, but male rabbits can have a very small one, too (usually in the breeds that have loose skin, like Flemish giants and English lops). Once again, I just thought it might look neat on the adult and maybe the teen, and add some extra detail to fill out the artwork. =D

 

As for the fluff around the neck, my original idea was that it was almost nonexistent around the back of the head, and plumed at the front, but separated down the center of the chest. I thought it would make the Leverene look more regal if the fluff stuck outward over the cheeks in some poses.  The back of the head was going to be completely black, and there was going to be an orange triangle that extended between the shoulder blades. Like on a tan rabbit (the markings are based off the tan pattern). So like this: http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Balet66/levstretch.gif

Although on some of my redraws, I was thinking of making the fur on the back of the head kind of pokey, an exaggeration of how the fur on the back of a rabbit's head doesn't lay flat. And I made the back of the head orange. 

 

The body is based off that of a Belgian hare, or a real hare. Except it's exceptionally more muscular than a Belgian hare, with thicker legs and wider paws. 

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Balet66/Picture3-5.png

I thought the hare body would make it look more like a wild animal, and more interesting in general. But since there's some comments about it not being appropriate, I'm not sure what to do with it.

 

Overall, thanks for the ideas. I'm taking them into consideration. For the one that's being addressed about it not looking enough like a rabbit, I'm still not sure what to change. I have to agree. It looks more like an exaggerated hare. I rather like that look, though. =D But am working on it and won't settle until many more people are pleased with the result.

 

Also, I'll fix the shading. It IS too dark.

BlueFox

4:47pm Apr 25 2009

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Fluffy rabbit is fluffy XD
I see where your going with the ideas, but maybe is should be just, well rabbity :P



Balet

5:37pm Apr 25 2009 (last edited on 5:38pm Apr 25 2009)

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I'll draw a rabbit-like version of the Leverene, then. =D 
Trigun

7:31pm Apr 25 2009 (last edited on 7:34pm Apr 25 2009)

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Once again, it's that the body doesn't have the anatomy of a lagomorph. It's vulpine/ lupine/ feline.

(Which is why I mentioned that it would make an excellent new creatu; just not a leverene.)

 

Cat/dog/fox:

 

 

Rabbit/Hare/Pika:

 

 

We are seeing the differences yet? Long arched back, long hind legs, short forelimbs. Center of gravity rests in the rear.

 

 






Balet

8:00pm Apr 25 2009 (last edited on 8:02pm Apr 25 2009)

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There's a rabbit Leverene. The one reason I think a hare-like creature is more suitable is because the name Leverene is derived from the word 'leveret', which is a baby hare. Although there's plenty of hares that look like rabbits, so I guess it doesn't matter. 

Trigun

8:31pm Apr 25 2009

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I don't think anyone has a problem with it looking like a hare. There are plenty of rabbits that look like hares and plenty of hares that look like rabbits.

What it is is that there are no rabbits or hares with the bodies of dogs. ><;

The last one is definitely closer. :p Looks like a teen.






Balet

8:33pm Apr 25 2009 (last edited on 9:15pm Apr 25 2009)

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They don't have dog bodies, though. =P

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/Balet66/Picture5-4.png 

Here's a skeleton of the same species (from the same vender, too) from the same angle:

Balet

8:56pm Apr 25 2009

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I know.

What if the baby stage is really cute, kind of fluffy, and adhers to those who want a cutsie bunny. Then the teen can be a typical rabbit, and the adult could be the exaggerated hare-like creature.  

Flickyr

9:31pm Apr 25 2009

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sounds cool, balet. XD



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Trigun

10:54pm Apr 25 2009 (last edited on 10:55pm Apr 25 2009)

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Okay, true. The vertabral structure is correct, but the positioning and build of the legs are that of a dog's.

Also, if you look at the way a rabbit is composed when it has muscles and skin, it's very heavy and wide in the rear -which is what I meant by its centre of gravity. That picture of the skeleton there would have its belly completely on the ground.* That arch in the spine is nothing more than a way for the skeleton to allow for the massive ball of GI tract a rabbit has. That's not to say that the design has to be fat, but they are pear-shaped and distinctively don't have a waistline.

Edit: *which is what is making yours look like the vertabral structure is off. 






Balet

11:30pm Apr 25 2009

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Does this one look alright?

The Leverene I drew has unusually long, thick legs that bring its belly off the ground. Some rabbits with more hare-like bodies (full arch, as it's called) carry their bellies off the ground. But the caudal end touches the ground, so this would be a pretty unnatural pose, or the spine isn't long enough. You're right. I guess I should make the spine longer?

 

 

-nods- Definitely. I'll make another version that has a longer body so its butt is on the ground.  

Do you think the thighs on this look too narrow? The feet, I know, are a little big, and the back legs are awkwardly splayed. I'm not using this for the Leverene, of course. 

  

Trigun

11:55pm Apr 25 2009 (last edited on 11:58pm Apr 25 2009)

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Yeah that looks a lot better Balet!

Here's my little bit of critique on the second one:

You have to remember that rabbits are more or less like cats in that they can turn around in their skin -it doesn't cling to their frame like other animals. (Which, incidentally is a major player in that 'pear shaped' look.)

Also, generally speaking, on a rabbit in this position you would not be able to see his jawline. It would be tucked behind the chest almost touching back to the spine, even if the animal doesn't have much of a dewlap. You may be able to see his chin though. :p

PS. I would be so afraid to own a Belgian Hare. They're stunningly beautiful, but I'd be  afraid I'd break its back since they have so little belly mass to compensate for it. xD 






Balet

11:59pm Apr 25 2009

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That's true. When the head is turned towards us directly, it would be sunken in the dewlap. If it's nose pointed upwards, we'd see under the neck.

 You got the thickness of the legs perfectly.  Thanks! -working on new Leverene sketch-  

Trigun

12:24am Apr 26 2009

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You're welcome! n_n





Balet

12:36am Apr 26 2009

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I don't have time to ink this tonight, but will get to it later! Haven't added the spines or whatever that are on the back, either. 

I had some ideas about those. In the current version, there's nothing special about them. It would be neat if that remained the same in the baby, but they progressed into something else for the adult. Like on one of the concepts I drew up, you can see that they unfold into ears. Maybe the ears are forming as it gets older, and it has an increased number of cyan stripes. -shrug-

Also, the toes. On all three current stages, there's toe on the front and three on the back. Should that be the same. There could be three, four, or five on the front, and two, three, four, ot five on the back. Real rabbits have five on the front and four on the back. 

There's also the tail. I added some fur to it in this sketch.

And I fixed the chin. Hard to describe.

This sketched version has a barely prominent plume. Maybe the plume would be larger on the baby stage, then shrink as it gets older. On the current Leverene, it's the other way around.

The current Leverene has four spots on each side in the same pattern as these revamp concepts, but the concepts have them as upside down droplets, sort of curved pair-shaped spots.

The concepts also have long hair on the upper ear rim and on the back of the head.

Or maybe I shouldn't change it so much. 

Trigun

1:03am Apr 26 2009

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8D There we go! I like that one a lot!
And congrats for fitting that long tail in and managing not to make it look odd. xD I honestly thought that no one would ever be able to get around that. 





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