Rescreatu - Virtual Pet Game

Merchants, Ranchers, BREEDERS accounts (subscription account suggestion)


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lilindar

12:03am Jan 21 2012

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Breeders accounts could be an annual subion that would allow users to sell eggs in a shop just like ranchers sell live pets and merchants sell items. A possible annual fee for such an account could be 500 credits. 

Possible details at length:
- 500 credits annual fee
- breeder shop opens at level 1 with 5 egg occupancy
- shop can be leveled up for 50 credits
- levels go up by 2s instead of 5s
- like merchant shops in that 10 murren eggs count as 1 "item", not 10 items. So a level 1 breeder shop could have 5 types of eggs, as many eggs of those 5 types as a person would want to make available.
- the breeder shop wouldn't actually be a class like merchants and ranchers are. Rather, you'd be a merchant or rancher and your breeders shop would be in addition to your class shop. 
- eggs in breeders shops would be shopped for via the search: shops text entry 
- if a person searches for "murren egg" obviously just eggs in breeder shops would come up, but if a person searches for "murren", breeder shop eggs would be listed on top of every other item in a differently colored form (like sponsored item auction listings.)
- Currently regular users can trade or auction pet eggs. I don't want to see this option removed, but perhaps the breeder account would be made more valuable if regular user accounts were limited to auctioning or trading 10 eggs a day (or some number.)
- ad free browsing. The ad box on the left menu would be replaced with breeder shop administration. 
- possibly breeder account holders could get an extra 5% off CS purchases, but that isn't in addition to a temporary site wide discount. 

Other sites I frequent heavily have very popular subscriber options (thinking of deviantart and smackjeeves, for instance.) It could be a thing that works for Res. :B


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Graveyardfox

2:14am Jan 21 2012

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No support. The reason why eggs can't be stocked anymore is because of programming complications.
If they find a way around that, I'm sure they'd add that back to the Merchant feature.

And who would pay 50USD a year just to sell Eggs on a pet game, as well as lose their current class? It's far more profitable to sell pets and items if you do it right. And eggs, like everything else, can be sold in the forums for free. Most eggs don't have enough worth to make a Breeder account worth it. Plus, the added cost of having to make it possible to sell every type of egg would only make it less appealing.

And no support for ANYONE getting discounts in the CS shop over others. CS items are meant to promote either supporting the site or hard work to earn the Tu to get Credits or the items. It'd be unfair to let someone get a break.

The sites you're thinking of actually have decent perks to being a subscriber that some like and some don't care about. In my opinion, Rescreatu is very open about features. I can't think of anything that could be put into a "Premium" account to add onto how Res is now.



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lilindar

3:14am Jan 21 2012

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Well actually, my suggestion was to do an egg shop *in addition to* a person's rancher or merchant shop.

It's definitely not an option everyone on the site would go for or anything. ^^; But I think there'd be some who would be interested if the idea could be modified to a version more likable.

And there are several online and real world business examples of successful membership purchases = discounts later on. Costco, for instance. You must buy a membership in order to shop there at all. Deviantart, anyone can buy prints, but a premium membership gives you a small percentage discount on them. A person would have to do the math, sort out how much they might spend on Res in a year, and then decide if a premium account would be worth it. Ultimately a membership, even one that is paid for, can prompt customer loyalty which will generate more sales over all even if in the short term there is a loss. 

This idea is meant to most focus on and benefit the players who have some disposable income for fun and who are serious about supporting this game. c:


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lilindar

3:40am Jan 21 2012 (last edited on 3:49am Jan 21 2012)

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Heck, I just thought of a good idea. 8D 

If a subscriber could have all three types of shops, no more picking between merchant or rancher, that would be pretty cool. 

edit: and another idea. a subscriber could have 60 hours on seasonal pet hunts instead of 48. 

I think there are loads of features on this game that could be somehow built upon to provide a nice subscriber experience! X3 


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Outsane

11:59am Jan 21 2012

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Eggs aren't in Merchant shops because of a programming error, we purposefully did that to prevent users from getting around the spoiling effects.

Which is the reason I don't support this idea. lol.

Not only that, it would create an unfair monopoly for users who can afford to pay for the credits to have this class. Only users who pay money can sell eggs in a shop? I don't see the benefit in that. I don't think it would be used often as opposed to the trades or the auction house.
lilindar

2:21pm Jan 21 2012

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Pay more get more is a pretty common business model. :P

The point of the idea is to better fund Res which would result in more work being done which would result in a better website over all. 

I'm very amused that this idea is being so hated. WHAT? PAY FOR CONTENT? WHAT A TERRIBLE IDEA.


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punchbuggy

6:18pm Jan 22 2012

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It's not being hated. People just give criticism.
If you don't want people to criticise, don't put the idea into the suggestions thread. You can always expect criticism from people. Not everybody is going to like the ideas you have.
Ping

8:21pm Jan 22 2012

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I don't think there are enough benefits to convince people to get this 'breeder' account. Plus I don't think the mechanics of this account makes much sense either. Sure you get more stuff, but your gameplay is completely changed. That's a little strange. If we have some subscriber account deal, we would need similar gameplay to non subscrubers, just some really awesome extras. Maybe like speical areas or something or unlimited egg refrigerator. Maybe space tourism to Uldavi, lolidk. You just need more if people are going to pay. If you analyse dA and smackjeeves, there are plenty of benefits!

And as Whit said earlier, the reason why merchants can't sell eggs is because of a glitch. So in the end, there are actually no benefits from having this breeder shop other than ad-free browsing and CS discounts (which doesn't really make sense to me as you need to spend so much for the account in the first place, it's not worth whatever discount you get).
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Another difference Res has from dA and smackjeeves is that dA and smackjeeves aren't games. Res is a game therefore you have to take into account how 'fair' it is on other users. Things like these, having a year long benefit, must be thought out carefully to ensure that the subscribers aren't like on crazy god mode or something.

So no support unless ammended ;D


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Jenny

12:45am Jan 24 2012

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Um, this idea would be good if all of us were rich in real life with money to spend on miscellaneous stuff like virtual pet sites or extremely wealthy in this game.

Besides, I like that eggs can't be placed in shops anymore.
It has increased user interaction within the forums and created a new demand for egg hunters/searchers.

Other people who has put years and years of dedication into this site might not be able to become subscribers because not even the older users are that rich in one or both aspects.
So basically anyone with da mulah would benefit solely because they happened to have the money.
Which would be kind of unfair for everyone else is just wants to play this game for free, yet at the same time want to have equal opportunity to experience the game fully, rather than being omitted from "exclusive" content.

I sort of just like that there's only staff and regular users. Even staff are like equals to us except they get paid to help both regular users and improving the site.


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lilindar

12:08am Jan 26 2012

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I don't think anyone is really understanding what added revenue could do for this site. Having more staff to create and moderate content is good for EVERYONE, not just subscribers. The reason I posted this idea at all is that most every time I see anything suggested, the response is about lack of staff, lack of writers, lack of programmers, lack of artists. 

Not having enough man power to create and moderate content is a *very* valid reason to not do something. How do you fix that problem? Bring more people on. How do you get quality people? Pay them. 

In the overall development of the site, having increased revenue would improve the ENTIRE game, not just subions. That is the goal of this idea.

If you have another idea targeting this same goal, please consider posting it. I completely agree, a subion needs more stuff! What stuff would you want to see?

Anyone who argues funding clearly doesn't matter, everything ever should be free, and if someone has more money than you that's totally unfair ... 8|yeah. I can seriously not help you at all. Please walk outside and visit the real world. 


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lilindar

12:26am Jan 26 2012

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Here are some additional thoughts: 
These subscriber benefits don't necessarily have to be on a subion account. 

For instance, I could absolutely be convinced to spend 10$ to upgrade my account and have both rancher and merchant shops for a year.

Or seasonal egg hunts. I definitely could spend 10$ for an extra 12 hours to hunt. (definitely put a cap of 1 extension per account before everything goes crazy.)

Being able to spend real world capital on these things would actually LEVEL the playing field for me! Not make it unfair. My internet is AGONIZINGLY SLOW. I need an extra 12 hours to hunt eggs and even THEN I'm not going to get as many refreshes per minute as you lot that live in cities that can provide you high speed internet. And being a relatively new user, things like the recent apple hunt are difficult for me because I don't have the establishment of the much older players. I'm not whining and crying about things being "unfair", but I think allowing me to purchase a merchant shop so that I can sell items as well as pets would help me rise to the level of these older players and compete with them where as I currently am not able to. 


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Jenny

12:29am Jan 26 2012

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Those could be separate ideas on their own.
It might be better to sell those things by themselves, rather than a full package of being a subscriber.

I do understand that, yes, real money will benefit the site greatly.
It would enable more staff to be hired since they would have the expenses to pay new staff members.


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Pandoryn

12:59am Jan 26 2012 (last edited on 1:00am Jan 26 2012)

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Hmm :/ The thing is everyone is suffering in this economy. Believe me I recently got unemployed and I am out there looking for a job everyday. I've put in over 15 apps and so far no dice.
While I think that adding revenue to the site to help support it is good I just don't know how many people are in a position to pay for such things on a virtual pet site. :P

Some nifty ides though :D Work with it. Maybe as a whole we can put something together. Heck I'd even deal with more advertisements on the site like I do on Dc if we get some upgrades and such.


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