Total suport I would love the Leverene to stay a rabbit I thought a revamp should be coming up soon as well I'm glad someone else adresed the issue and thought so to :) I agree with everything oyu said and that would be an amazingly wonderful Leverenve revamp!

Wow. Just. Wow..

No words can describe. 

My beef with the revamp is that there was little to no regard paid to rabbit anatomy at all. I can understand abstracting the design a little bit as long as it retains base characteristics that describe it as a Leverene - a lagomorph. 

 As much as people would like to think that since creatu aren't real they aren't tethered to realistic expectations, the fact remains that successful stylization/ abstraction of a specific animal lays in having an understanding of the realism *censored*ociated with it. Otherwise, the design does not work.

 This doesn't hold true for creatu like the paor or zaphao which have no real basis in nature, but the Leverene's very name indicates it as a rabbit - a name which it no longer lives up to.

Regardless there's no point in maintaining this thread anymore, other than to have a place for people to gripe. xD Or, God forbid, critique. 

I'm gonna go off topic and say I cried when they revamped the Paor. It wouldn't have been bad... (I still would have preferred the old ones though) if they'd bother to pay attention to the fact they took out the back spikes, which were still mentioned in the deion. :x

Anyway, I dunno if you saw KiraraNeko's blog, Trigun, but the artist mentioned that it was based more off the Jackrabbit than the regular one. Other than a slightly shorter face, I can see the similarity, especially in body composition, when I look at real pictures compared to the revamped adult.

See? I think that it got pretty close (other than the face). Fantasy animals are never going to look totally like the real ones they are based off of, but this one did a good job of still reflecting a jackrabbit.

The point of Res is that creatu are not animals. They can have animal traits and be based off animals, but they'll never totally reflect that animal. Why come to a place like Res, which I kinda consider a fantasy/sci-fi blend, if you're just looking for a rabbit to have as a pet? Try a pet shop or a site like Foopets if you want a real rabbit. I think a tentacled, jackrabbit-like, creature is much more interesting.

It doesn't look like a jack rabbit at all. The body isn't perfect but it is okay, however everything about the head is feline and/ or vulpine, not lagomorph, and unfortunately in this case the head is what makes or breaks the believability of the design. To be honest the head is about the only part of this creatu that had the potential to be messed up - as long as it has a rabbit's basic skull shape the body can be anything and the animal will still be convincingly lagomorph.

The structure of a rabbit's head is very different from any other animal. I'm pretty convinced that the artist just didn't want to go to the trouble of deviating from the typical feline head. (Felidae and canids: everyone's favorite easy animals to draw.)

Once again, please refer to my previous post: successful stylization/ abstraction of a specific animal lays in having an understanding of the realism *censored*ociated with it. Otherwise, the design does not work. This doesn't hold true for creatu like the paor or zaphao which have no real basis in nature, but the Leverene's very name dictates that it as a lagomorph, which this design simply is not.

Let's put this in another perspective - what if I decided to, say, put a duck's head on a zenerix. Would it still be a zenerix? 

Kirara is a beautiful artist. I point you here: http://freezedryocs.weebly.com/

So what if they chose her for the Leverene revamp and rabbits aren't totally her thing. Its life.

And, on top of that, its a pet site.  

I don't think anyone is arguing that Kirara isn't a great artist- She is.

That being said, I will have to side with Trigun on this one.

Yes, it might be a petsite, and sure, maybe rabbits aren't her life...

But that doesn't mean that the leverene should have a cat head, which it does. Res has plenty of feline creatu. Want a cat? Get an otachie. Or an Iluvu. Hell, even a Zaphao.

Lets take a look at the Uilus....it's intended to look like an owl, right? And does it? Yeah, it does get that across pretty well. Why? The head, for the most part. It's believeably owl-like, even if the body is that of some other animal and obviously not an owl.

I'm not even going to change the head shape since I can't change that much of an imagine and still have it look normal, but I will change one small feature: The beak.

I gave it (very poorly) a more cat-like mouth. Does it still resemble an owl? 

I'm not saying the leverene needs to look exactly to-the-teeth a rabbit, but having the head of (at least remotely) would improve the leverene immensely. At this point all I can really see is a body of a whatever it is(which I like, actually) with a cat head and tossed on rabbit ears. You do NOT have to be some crazy-off-the-top biology major to know what a rabbit head looks like. Despite my name, I don't actually like rabbits/bunnys that much, and I sure as hell have never taken the time to study their anatomy. Still, I can see that this is NOT the head of a rabbit. In fact, all I had to do was look at a few pictures of rabbits to get a general sense of what their head looked like.

See it now? All I did was change the ears, add some whiskers, and for fun, I added in some teeth.

I looked at the photo of the rabbit in the post above and, from memory just seeing it once, attempted to make that general head shape.

Now, obviously, I'm not the best at drawing pet site animals or I would have applied for staff, but even just looking at a rabbit ONCE for a few seconds, I think I kit a little closer to home than a cat head. Maybe not very well, but I tried. I still have a bit of a cat-like mouth left, and it's not exactly like a rabbit, but imo it fits a lot better than a cat head does. This is just from spending a few measly seconds looking at a photo of a live rabbit. So, tell me, do you really need to be a biology major or specialize in drawing rabbits to mimic a rabbit-like head? I'm not even asking for an EXACT rabbit head. I just thought something a bit more rabbit-LIKE would have done wonders to this revamp.  

Honestly, I dunno why people are complaining about the tentacles. They had them before, and I think they look quite good now. The leverene is supposed to be an alien creatu anyways...but, my problem is the head. And I don't think it's too cartoonish. This is a pet site, after all. This isn't, however, a petsite aimed at 2-year-olds who cannot tell the difference between a cat head and a rabbit head. I think this is quite obviously a cat head. 

There is a difference between believable fantasy, and just fantasy. I would like to have a creatu which is supposed to be a herbivore, have a head that is biologically made for eating plants, not meat.

 We may not be able to change this revamp, but I would like to think that showing our ideas on this matter will help the artists in the future know what they may want to do in other revamps. There is simply no excuse for putting a cat head on something that IS meant to be a rabbit. Yes, this may be a pet site, and this may be fantasy, but neither of those are valid excuses.

If I draw a cat, but give it a fishes head, I wouldn't just brush it off and say "Well, it's fantasy, and this is a pet site anyways, so it's a cat still, ok?"  Because that's exactly what happened here, only with a cat and a rabbit. "It's just a pet site" isn't an excuse.

Just to be clear, I like everything about this revamp other than the head. I think the rest looks fantastic. I think kirara did a great job with the color schemes and a fantastic job with shading. Certainly much better than I would have. I think Kirara is an excellent artist herself, and have absolutely -NOTHING- against her personally. I like her, actually. My problem is absolutely NOT with the artists, I don't think anyone has a problem with the artists themselves, I think they are all wonderful, and I do appreciate the time they take out of their own lives to provide wonderful, updated art for us all. I really do appreciate it.

I do, however, think that as a member of this pet site, I am entitled to voice my opinions on these matters. I put my own time into this game, and many also do the same, some even support it with real, hard-earned money, (or possibly their mothers credit card. p: Either way) and in a way, by visiting res every day ->without my adblock on<-, I am supporting it too. I think that the more your community voices their opinions and suggestions, the better the staff will know how to handle situations in the future, making res a happier place. :3 I know you can't possibly please everyone, but you can try.