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2:19pm Oct 29 2011 (last edited on 2:19pm Oct 29 2011)
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1) we're not being haters everyone is rationally saying why they don't think this would work, the second you put a suggestion thread up, anyone can post their opinion to debate about it, just because three people think its a nice idea doesn't mean its fair for the rest of the entire website, and in the end the decision falls on the res staff 2) You keep saying the poor poor beloved pets are dying >_> sorry, but the pets are images on a screen that are the result of some one else's creativity, and if as a part of that the story clearly states that the pets go to a different planet, then they GO TO A DIFFERENT PLANET, you may say other wise, but the story with it is as real as the pets themselves
3) No one's forcing anyone to give pets to kir
4) And I'm really truly sorry, and not trying to offend anyone, but is it kind of easy to tell if a newer user made the thread/post :T
No support
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11:46pm Oct 30 2011
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I agree with Dragon393.
Kir does not kill pets, they are wiped from the system as they, according to Kir's story, go to Uldavi, possibly to help in breeding more Iviks (a hybrid Creatu species).
They [the Creatu given] are not living creatures but pixels on a computer screen.
Also, handing out "gifts" to people "who support you" is bribery.
Without Kir, the situation for Ranchers in trying to make a TU profit off their pets would be worse.
Newbie users should also LEARN the system through experience, not through handouts of "free rare pets".
When I began on Res, I had little to no TU. However, I bought three NCJB from the credit shop, hatched some Mirabilis, beaned them Silver, Black, etc. and ended up making 20 million TU within a month or two.
If I can do it, so can other users.
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6:10am Oct 31 2011
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Although I can empathize with the attachment to Creatu, and feel no one should criticize that, I agree with everyone else. The pets supposedly aren't being killed, although I'm always one for conspiracies, even in games. Still, this is how the game is played.
I don't think this has been stated already, but people would abuse the system to death. I've had nothing but rare pets for like... 10 points, and it sucks. I enjoy the short break of getting a few "free" points from being asked for common pets. I wouldn't do Kir if he was asking for albino pets left and right for certain selfish users. It might start out innocent at first, but it's human nature to get greedy.
The whole system would be unfair to a lot of people. Think of the old users who actually had to EARN their pets and tu. Newbies would just try to ride the system, asking for rare pets then selling them off. The last thing I want on Res is a rich noob that just rode to the top on other people's work.
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10:28pm Oct 31 2011
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No.
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11:58pm Nov 17 2011
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Sorry Wolfieshart, dont support.
rite now, im trying to hatch a calico meragon for kir
now, i loose that pet, but a completely new user gets that pet, makes money, becomes rich, but has no idea how to play the game...
its not a good idea. I mean, kir's quest is just to decrease the amount of creatu in the game. and anyways, like dragon393 said, these pets are even real!
i joined last month, and im still working on getting my tu. All my tu is from playing games everyday and saving and not making purchases!
if newbies suddenly get rare creatu, sell the ones they dont want, and make a ton of money, it isnt fair for the others that are working for the money!
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1:58am Nov 18 2011 (last edited on 2:16am Nov 18 2011)
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Firstly, no one here has been spamming or hating on this thread. I'm not either, just to clarify that too. :I In addition to what people have stated previosly, I especially agree with Fenghaung about bribing people lol. xD To gain support more support for your idea, you should be tweeking your idea to be more feasible instead of offering gifts lol. I also have a bit of a problem with this bit right here: "You would get the same rewards as before Kir killed. Economy fixer: Make eggs rarer." I think what you need to do is stop taking Kir's quest personally. XD The whole "Kir is killing pets thing." Sure, people love to joke about it, but you've just plain refused to accept the canon Rescreatu story for Uldavi and Kir, even when a staff member tired to explain that to you, and have replaced it with your own. XD I think that's a little silly, especially since you're trying to use something ficticious to justify your idea. And that economy comment. That's not nearly that simple or easy. The entire point of Kir's Quest to give people an outlet to clear the clutter of horribly undervalued pets from Res, give more established users something new to do with their Creatu, and boost profits for ranchers. It's supposed to remove pets from the system. Simply making eggs rarer doesn't magically fix the problem of horribly undervalued pets-- it does nothing to solve the problem of there being too many in the first place. This is why Res staff decided to implement a feature that would remove pets from the game and offer cool rewards at the same time. This ened up being a lot longer than I meant it to be lol
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2:48pm Nov 18 2011
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i think its a great idea! stop feeding kir!
i say we kill kir not the pets and whats so bad about high pet population?
what are showrooms for! if you cant take care of them put them in the show room people!
i am in huge agreement with this
kill kir!
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4:08pm Nov 18 2011
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Talia, you're missing the point. It's not that people can't take care of their pets, it's about price of the pets in the market. When there's too many pets, prices drop dramatically, when there's too little, the prices are higher. The point of Kir is to strike a balance, and clear up the excess pets and help keep the market running smoothly for Ranchers.
And once again:
KIR DOES NOT KILL/EAT/POKE CREATU. HE GIVES THEM TO THE CITIZENS OF HIS PLANET BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PETS FOUND ON THE ELEMENTAL PLANETS.
It's fine to make fun of Kir or amuse yourself with the idea that Res is darker than it is, but the truth is written in red right there.
If you support killing Kir, you basically rob the children of Uldavi of the Creatu we all love. Kir is a good alien.
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4:26pm Nov 18 2011
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you cant chang my mind
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5:26pm Nov 18 2011
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I support! One suggestion... There could be a thing 'Give to Kir' and 'Take from kir'. If you clicked 'take from kir' the pet you got would be compleatly random. Not like you could put in a request 'ablino berrok' because then people would use that for their own kir quests.
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5:31pm Nov 18 2011
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good idea fluzz:-)
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5:51pm Nov 18 2011
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No support. Kir, much as you little children would like to not believe, is not real. Neither are these 'poor creatu' you feel so sorry for. You don't like handing pets in to him? Don't. Don't like other people handing them in? Deal with it. Kir is a necessary part of the Rescreatu economy, and to get rid of/change him would be foolish. It'd just be stupidity like that that would result in the economy going down the drain.
Well now. I should... Probably put something intelligent here. At some point. Eventually.
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... Screw it. HYE. ♥
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5:58pm Nov 18 2011
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No, this is a bad idea.Kir is a game that you play if you want.
Pets are pixel art.
Kir is not real.
Pets are not real.
Dont give pets to Kir if you dont want to.
No random giveaway.
No random rare pets for free.
No.
Ivik is a prize that you get if you give pets to kir.
Kir does not kill pets.
His a programm.
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8:03pm Nov 18 2011
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i know that you weird person
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9:10pm Nov 18 2011 (last edited on 9:14pm Nov 18 2011)
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I do not tle="Powered by Text-Enhance" id="_GPLITA_2" href="#" in_rurl="http://www.textsrv.com/click?v=VVM6MTA4NDM6MzU2OnN1cHBvcnQ6M2YxN2E0ZmEzMDVlZjZhMWIwYTdmYWE4MDZjZjFlZWU6ei0xMDQyLTExNTgzOnd3dy5yZXNjcmVhdHUuY29t">support the idea. The people here who have nice pets worked for their pets. Besides don't we get tons of free pets from the game in egg form?
All pets lose their value when you can just waltz on up to Kir and say "hey I want this rare albino seasonal please." And eventually you'd get it. Why is it so special I hatched myself and albino ebillia after three years on rescreatu now? You can just go to Kir and ask. It's not special anymore why would I bother to even try to find more valuable pets when no one has to work for them anymore.
Many users here spent hours playing games Searching for seasonal eggs Played the stock market Payed money so they could have a special item, and in turn supported the site. Those are the people who deserve those rare and valuable pets, because they earned those pets through work and sacrifice.
Kir has helped the economy because frankly, before Kir it was in a sad state of affairs. Even now many low color pets can't be given away.
Do you know why Kir asks for pets? Because their planet only has robotic pets, and engineered ones. Those pets are being sent off to live happy lives with another race that will love them. I know one point and 100k isn't much for an albino, but I like to imagine that the products cost huge amounts to produce so it evens out.
Substituting head canon for canon is not an acceptable way to garner support (neither is bribery.)
I'm sorry if my opinions sound headstrong and harsh, however I just had to give my full reasons for not approving of this.
If the idea of giving kir a pet bothers some people that much, then imagine a little alien child running to that pet in glee because that's the first pet they've ever had.
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9:46pm Nov 18 2011
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zada: if we worked hard for a rare pet say a albino berrok
why would you give it to kir?
who care if "kir"
wants it?
ohh no kir want a witlle albino berrok
so kir get evry thing he wants you lose tu
on kir abino berrok cost about 30-40 mil
and what does he give you i stupid 100k
ok so i would be nice for some little kid to have a pet
why cant kir just ask for natties
and easy to get pets?
we should at least nock out albinos from kir and calico
pets to
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10:05pm Nov 18 2011
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You lose tu because you want the ivik or whatever else you're trying to get from Kir. You do not have to participate. Owning Kir's pets shows you either had the money to buy the pets to get the eggs, or the money to buy the pet from someone. Both of which took some kind of effort or sacrifice.
Why should I lose tu so another user can get a pet without effort? I'd rather hand a pet to a game construct, which is in turn helping the economy, then teach people they can get all they want for free.
I want to help the rescreatu economy, not promote laziness.
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10:24pm Nov 18 2011
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Zada's pretty much pegging it.
Talia, you obviously don't get the point of Kir, the basics of economics, or the idea of hard work. Either that or you're just choosing to ignore what's being said. Either way, I don't know how we can make this any clearer for you.
All I can say is I can safely bet everything to my username on this site that Kir will not be changed. Every game requires some sort of work. If not, it's not really a game, it's more of a pointless way to waste time with little accomplishment.
Res is not about making things easy for people who don't want to work hard. People who don't want to work hard are not rewarded. It's the people who really put effort into the game that will eventually be rewarded.
If everything was easy, what would be "rare"? What would be sought-after. An easy game is a boring game. Most people don't stick around for a boring game. Patrick did not create this site to be a one-week thing for people to get bored of. He has a fantastic site that is meant to keep people coming back for hopefully a long time.
Ivik are meant to be rare. Pretty much, they're the hardest pet to get in the game. Some people want to work for that, others don't. It's a matter of choice. It isn't as though Kir's quest is a required story ark, so complaining about it is pointless. Just don't do it if you don't like it.
Also, calling someone a "weird person" is kind of rude. o3o
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10:28pm Nov 18 2011
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well i dont care i am not feeding kir you all can do what you want
i needed a bino akuria
and yes i do get the point of kir i just dont favor him at all
and for the "weird person" every single person i know is offended
if you say there not weird
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10:30pm Nov 18 2011
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Talia no one ever said you had to give anything to Kir. It is the fact that you suggest people should be able to ask Kir for free pets that makes us irritated. Because that takes all challenge from the game.
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