Alright guys, I wanna know your opinions.  Which of these two species, Ebilia or Uilus, do you think is better/more worth your time?  Remember, this is a debate.  Whoever posts the best argument will receive either an Ebilia egg or a Uilus egg.  So remember, no slandering, humiliating, or otherwise disrespecting the Forum, and may the best entry win.

Alright heres my opinion:

Ebilia are 0.9& Rarity meaning they are much more easier to find, while as Uilus are 0.5% Rarirty, being harder to find. Ebilia are quite easier to find, especially with an adult one. Uilus take much much much time, and people can spend up to hours looking for one.

Ebila being easier to find have a much bigger chance of being nattie, and once they retire their eggs barely increase. Uilus have a higher chance of being colored, as I've hatched 2 Albino myself. Uilus Eggs usually go for 3 mil once retired for the year, and Ebilia can barely make 2 mil. Yes, it is easier to bean an Ebilia Albino, while as Uilus can take up to 60 mil(beleive me, I've had to do it before). Albino Ebilias usually sell for 20 - 30 mil, while as Albino Uilus can EASILY make 30 mil. They are much more coveted due to their rarity, and only the best of players, or the luckiest have them. Nattie Ebilias never go for more than 200k after being retired, while as you could get 200k at the LOWEST for a nattie Uilus. Uilus are much more rarer, and more of the coveted creatu, due to their "fluffyness" and "cuteness". Even at the Adult stage, Uilus are still cute. Ebilia's start out cute, and work their way up to UGLY - Not that many people really like them, really only for their luckiness on Reiflem. Ebilia are cheaper, easier to find and not very appealing. Uilus are expensive, hard to find and very cute.

In my opinion, UILUS ROCK!

Thank you ^^

In my opinion, all Creatu are equal and no one Creatu should be singled out due to looks or rarity. They are both beautiful, and, if raised well, kind and loyal creatures.

(although if en Ebilia and a Uilus could be bred, I think the results would be pretty frickin' awesome. ;D)

I am neutral on the subject, but will be popping in from time to time to see which Creatu is favored. :)

I think creatu shouldn't be equal, as people should have their opionions. I prefer Uilus and Otachie. Otachie are simple easy to find creatu, and are quite cute.

Yes, if Uilus and Ebi's could breed it would be amazing, but it'd be some skeleton owl thing, that might end up being ugly, and not many people might want it.

Ebilia rarity was set by Patrick and due to the fact that so many were found, Uilus eggs were probably lowered to make them more valuable.  Despite that, Uilus eggs are still selling at less than the price Ebilia eggs were DURING the hunt.

As creatu rarity depends entirely on Patrick during the seasonal hunts, the rarity itself should be disqualified form the debate.  As for the ability to hatch colored, that is entirely dependant on the luck of the hatcher on any given day, not on the rarity of the creatu.  This too should be disqualified from which creatu is better.

I own two of each species in albino.  What does that prove?

Game mechanics aside...

In my own, personal opinion, neither creatu is more special than the other.  I do, however, prefer the Uilus to the  Ebilia because they seem to me to be more noble creatures.  They are daring, they love the wild winds of Scria, and once tamed, they are a loyal companion.

Ebilia, on the other hand, while I still love them, are more crafty.  They are little terrors as kittens, getting into everything, and as adults they eat far too much.  They have no stomach, why should they eat? Wow.

Which is worth the trouble? They both are!  

Enough said.

And then Geo "pwned" all of our butts. lol

While I do agree that Uilus "rock", Relized, your reasoning begins wrong. Ebilia, like Uilus, are at 0% unless it is their season of finding. Your reasoning for what color those creatu are when they hatch also is rather flawed. Yes having more egg will increase your chances of getting a nattie but not because you have more. Your chances increase with all colors because colors are randomly hatched.
Now as for the line "...Only the best of players or the luckiest have them..." that is another misconception. Uilus are found for a week, just like an other seasonal creatu, at the same rarity rate. Therefor any member who logs on during that week and takes the time to look, can get an uilus, or ebilia when their season comes along.
Fourth addressing of your bit is the line "Nattie Ebilias never go for more than 200k after being retired"...I sold one for more than 1 million tu the other day and have done so since they were retired. End of that discussion.
And now since I have a bit more pressing matter to attentd to I shall sum up the rest of what I find off on Relized submission:
Yes uilus are cute, yes, to some people, the Ebilia is ugly and yes all that does contribute to when a person decides if they want to own one or not, but my question is, Where is the luck thing coming from? Your luck is your own and having a certain creatu doesn't change that.

Now I don't mean that to sound offensive, but it just irked me. Sorry if you are offended.

That's all well and good Relized, but I was referring to this statement:

"Not that many people really like them, really only for their luckiness on Reiflem."

{Which, by the way, a ton of people like Ebilia, but you aren't going to see much of that around this time of the year because the main focus is on Uilus and those Stockings.}

No certain creatu will give you anymore luck, at hatching or finding, than what you already have.

Oh and I forgot to add this one the whole price thing:

The Ebilia cost is how it is because of users who undercut prices for eggs and creatu. In a few years, possibly next year, the same thing will happen to Uilus eggs and creatu if people don't mind how they price things.

Qouted from the Ebilia Deion "Some say that if you have the final form of the Ebilia, your luck around Reiflem will be increased, thus improving your chances of getting rare eggs, even if they aren't found in the area. It is also said that your resurrection quests will be easier, unless you are trying to resurrect the Ebilia, then it will be more difficult."

(:

Just for the record. Any argument other than just an opinion on the appearance of either creatu is null, and this is why.

First, for the rarity. As Geo pointed out, Ebilias were .9% rarity. They were so much easier to find than the .5% rarity. The reason Uilus are rarer than Ebilia at their given times is because we just can't have that many seasonal pets running around. They're meant to be rare--that's part of the fun of hunting them and that's how you keep them valuable. If seasonals weren't valuable, there'd be no reason for them to be unfindable for the remainder of the year.

And as for the colors? Once again, Geo beat me to it, saying that it purely depends on the hatcher's luck. Just because you have 100 albino Uilus and only 5 blonde Ebilias doesn't make a valid point. If my theory is correct about hatching pets, then colors are decided for a user at reset [12 AM Rescreatu Standard Time] no matter what eggs you hatch. Perhaps you were decided at random with 1 albino hatch and 2 silver ones in one day. You could pick a Drindian, or you could pick a Uilus, and no matter what you would get the decided color. The system decides it. Pat doesn't just say, "Oh, well since Ebilias are more rare I think I'm going to be evil and as.sign everyone hatching Ebilia eggs this morning naturals." That's just not how it works. The system decides for you, and it's all completely randomized. Then again, all in red is theoretical. But think through it logically--isn't it probable that the theory is true?

And finally as far as personalities go. Don't take it to heart when I say that it seems silly to prefer one arrangement of pixels over another just because Patrick told you on the Creatu List page located in the hatchery said that this creatu was a cannibal while this other creatu is at high risk of getting toe fungus. Obviously those creatu deions are non-existant onsite. Sure. You can create personalities for your creatu--don't get me wrong. I do this all the time and I'm not a fool. Well...not for that reason, anyway. And sure. Patrick can tell you that these creatu are flightless even though they have wings, and he can say that this creatu eats this other creatu for a rounded diet. But see, the thing is. Does that really change the pixels at all? It's like saying that your camera loves taking pictures of scenery. That's not true; perhaps YOU like taking pictures of scenery, but the camera is inanimate, therefore cannot have a preference. Just like your creatu are inanimate and also have no preferences. They may 'seem' or 'look' like a friendly creatu like the Uilus, and they may 'seem' or 'look' like a deadly and devious creatu such as the Ebilia. They may look that way. But are they really? ...No. They are virtual pets, not real ones, and the closest you'll get to them having a personality is roleplaying. And even there, roleplaying isn't all that real...at all. How, I should ask, could there be librarians and wizards and prison wardens in the form of a creatu if this argument could possibly be valid? There couldn't.

Well, this turned more into an argument than an informational post. But I will leave you with one last note as to my argument. There really is no debate on which creatu is more worth your time or more 'awesome' than another. There can't be. As I said at the very beginning of my post, only an opinion on a creatu's appearance can argue logically and correctly. However, that's not really much of an argument at all anyways. You can indeed argue which creatu looks better--I for one am a bigger fan of Uilus--but when it all comes down to it, for debating, you must have facts. And as much as we all wish that our opinions could be facts, that, sadly, is what marks a good debate. An opinion will not win a debate, while a proven, solid fact will. I would give you an example but I don't want to impose and have a post that covers half the page. But if you get the chance and want to look at a real debate, I suggest looking for a debate or two on YouTube. Even in just high school debate, I'm sure you could find that either there were no or very few opinons set forth, or that the opposing team would attack an opinion. Believe me, I loved the debate sessions we would have in G/T in junior high.

So when it all comes down to it, whether a creatu is worth your time or not solely depends on how badly you want said creatu. I as.sume that you do not look for a creatu because the Creatu List told you that those creatu were noble and kind and were devoted to their owners. I as.sume that you look would for it for the same reason I would look for it: I think it's pretty and I want one in [insert creatu color here], and I want to name it [insert pretty name here]. That's why this creatu is worth my time. I love its appearance, and I want to own one, give it a name, and maybe write it up a personality.

Sorry about dragging on my 'final word,' but I promise I'm done now. And I'd like to note really quickly that this post was not meant to attack or shoot down anyone else's post, nor was it intended to chew anyone out or to make them feel upset. I see your arguments, guys, and I agree with some of your points...but there are just some arguments that cannot be accepted in real debate, like this board is asking for. Thank you for your time, and I realize that I did draw on and on, and I'm sorry about that. I just wanted to make my opinions perfectly clear, as all you have as well.

  I like both the Ebilia and the Uilus myself~ I don't like the adult Ebilia at all, as Relized said, they are ugly~ I prefer the teen, I think they are adoreable. The Uilus on the other hand are ugly as teens I think, they look better as either adults or babies. On an aside I find it rather funny that people do like Otachie~ now there's a creatu that goes from cute to ugly, but that's just my opinion. As for the rest of what I had to say~ Toxicity and Murgy took the words right out of my mouth~ what you hatch or find has nothing to do with "luck", next thing you know people will start saying it takes "luck" to SELL pets *smacks forehead* oh thats right they already do *looks at ads forum*~ but it doesn't, you just actually need to have a good named pet other than that it just depends on if users have the tu or items your looking or~ unless your asking an absurd amount. None of it has to do with "luck" and everything to do with purely being random.

Sorry for going off topic there a bit but the whole "luck" thing was bugging me........

Goiba are the best. Why? Because they are freakin' ninja frogs. How hardcore is that?

'nuff said.

I hate to bust your bubbles, but murrens kick all creatus' butts.

Freakin anciently wise turtle that could kick you butt up this street and down the next xP...

Okay picture an old man or woman doing that and I promise it is funny xD

Well, I prefer the Uilus by far. Firstly, the Uilus don't lose it's FLESH. You don't see the bones of an Uilus. They're adorable, cute little things. Ebilia just seem so harsh and dark. I know that some people like this, but I prefer the creatu that remain fully intact and cute. Uilus looks thoughtful and loving, while the adult Ebilia just stares at you from glaring, empty eye sockets. Enough said on appearance.

Rarity is half the fun. I heard someone saying that they had 27 Ebilia eggs. That's just crazy. Having to look a little harder for the Uilus egg just increases the excitement when you get your hands on one. Color is strictly random. I know I hardly ever get colors and others get a lot, it's plain random.  And with the Ebilia, color becomes less meaningful in the end, because over half the thing's fur is gone. That's all I have to say.

(But seriously, Kiokas, Meragons, and Zaphao are best!) 

Just to throw ONE more thing out there. Just one, I promise. o3o

Most of what you all are throwing out are just opinions, and...no offense, but your reasons sometimes fail your claim. Perhaps it's just my argumentative side calling up, but there is one point I should make clear. I think you guys might actually enjoy this example. Yesterday on the SB someone said, "I like Twilight." [What else is new? >.>] So another user and I explained calmly why we disliked Twilight [I don't know about her, but I dislike it with a p*censored*ion and tried to remain calm as possible]. However, the Twilight-loving user almost made me blow a gasket when she said that our opinions were wrong. Our OPINIONS. Were WRONG. That's impossible, there is no wrong or right opinon. If there was such a thing, then all opinions would be facts, and as I explaned in my UPER-long post up there, as much as we all wish our opinions were proven facts...they're just not. That's what makes an opinion what it is. I realize what the creator of this thread was doing, creating a 'debate.' However, once again, a debate over which creatu is better is completely opinionated. Heck, the word 'better' is completely opinionated. I think this would be better viewed as a survey than a debate, but that doesn't seem to be the way this thread was intended. No offense to the thread's creator, that is, I don't mean any offense to anyone when I make my points.

So thanks again for suffering through yet another paragraph, that wound up longer than I had planned. x__x