Kitten Emergency


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zozane008

6:22pm May 14 2011

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Exactly what Saru said. xDD

I luff Animal cops, thats what I'm going to be as a career.

No, their just stupid. My friend found the kitten at her ex-friends house. The ex-friend suggested that they popped the bone back in place. My gawd, do they know that it could damage the muscles in the leg? >.>




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SerenitySorrow

9:34pm May 14 2011

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Zo what you should probably do is make a splint. You can probably find how to make one on the internet XP



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BeckyL97

11:16am May 15 2011

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I wish I could save that kitten with you. Who could treat a kitten like that? It's horrific! D:

 




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zozane008

12:51pm May 15 2011

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Already covered, Serenity. :D



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SerenitySorrow

5:15pm May 15 2011

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Covered what...? The splint thing?

Whatev's have you decided what to do yet. Are you gonna take the Kitteh?

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LilRain

6:36pm May 15 2011

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My pitt bull was the same way. She was 3 weeks old and her before owners put cigarettes out on her and kicked her... and she had parasites in her skin, and a bunch of other things wrong with her. It takes a lot of time and money to deal with a case like that. Abby (our pitt) took about 4k or more of our cash to keep her up... plus there is a law you have to have insurance with bull dogs.

 

When we found out what they were doing to the WHOLE LITTER OF PUPS AND THE MOTHER.. we took them all... and adopted them out except for Abby. No one can really do anything. Cops and the Pound were called. They were sent to jail for animal abuse, but the thing is, so many people call in for animal abuse, the cops really don't do anything unless someone calls and says "hey our whole group of dogs have been stolen and the people are still here".. then when the cops get there and see how bad off the animals are, who do you think is going to get punished? Exactly.

 

Abby-Gale is 4 years old, has had 1 healthy litter of 9 pups when she was 3 years old, and we have kept one of them. You wouldn't even recognize her... she has a great shiny black coat, her nails are always painted ( ;]] ) and she has never had a clipped tail or ears. She is the only pitt bull dog  I know of that has a coat as beautiful as a labs. She is happier than ever and a great companion with babies, not so fond of teenagers and colored people because that is who abused her and that is all a dog knows, "hey you... you abused me" ... She is a great dog as well as her pup.

 

It takes a whole lot of time and money to take on a rescue case. I have had 3 other dogs rescued as well, with similiar problems, and it all totals around that... as well as cats... My current cat is named Tuesday and she has had a heck of a life to. We got her when she had a cold one of the days it was snowing... she was around 5 weeks old at least... still had the kitten belly, and waddled when she walked. She has had all of her shots and  just like Abby, has a wonderful coat, she is always groomed so she never really sheds, she has a bunch of pet peeves and I think she has mental disorders (lol) but she is a great house pet and the best thing that has happened to the family... 

 

 

just remember, vet bills are extremely pricey when the condition of the animal is extreme. 

 

Good luck though! =]]




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Mythalian

7:03pm May 15 2011

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Uh, I REALLY hate to sound troll-ish or mean, but.....

Stealing the kitten is considered breaking the law, I think...... Well, you'd at least have to pay an enormous fine.  The kitten is theirs, and they own it.  Since you have no authority over them, you have no right to take Raven.

The better way to handle this would be to call the ASPCA nearest to you, explain the situation to someone there and ask if there's anyone there that could help you with your predicament.  Once you've met someone through the ASPCA that can help you, find a cat rescue group near you that takes in kittens.  Then, once you've got a place that can surely take her/him, have the ASPCA/police go to the owner's house and charge them for animal abuse.

Zozane, even though what you think you're doing is right, I think it will end bad for you and the kitten if you do what you planned. :(  Especially with the part about stealing the cat and giving it to someone that you think will be good to her.

You can't THINK.  You have to know, and that's why it would be best to have the kitten placed in a rescue group.  The group can work with you to sort through applications to adopt the kitten, and if you see one that both you and the rescue group approve of, visit the applicant's house to make sure that the living conditions would suit the cat.  Also, try and get a gist of the applicant's personality.  If they would be a good match with the cat.  Even if they're super nice, you have to go for the cat's interests.  If the cat doesn't like them, no matter what, don't adopt him/her out to the person.

That's another reason why giving a cat to a friend is complicated and I highly reccomend against it.  You'll be pressured to give them the cat, even if they don't match well with the cat.  Just because they are your friend, or your cousin, or your neighbor doesn't mean that they are the best for the cat.  It's awkward if the match isn't good, so it's best to give the cat to someone you don't have an extremely close relationship with.

Anyways, I hope that Raven gets away from those terrible people :(

 




Wolfeira

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I agree with Mythalian completely. Morally what you're doing is right, you just want to do some good, you care for the cat, and so would I. But on the terms of what's actually the wisest choice to make... It's best just to get higher authoraties involved. If I were you, I'd get some big bosses over to put these people in their place. After all, who'll do more damage in the long run - you, or these people with power? You want to bring them down, don't you? I sure would. After all... if they're not given restrictions and stuff, how many more kittens will have to get hurt before these people are finally stopped? :c
 
How many of you disapprove of the idea of making dogs wear clothes when they clearly don't enjoy it, or hate the idea of owners spoiling their pets to the point where the animals are terribly undisciplined, misled in their views in life? These owners are just trying to be kind to their beloved pets, they think they're doing what's best, but what they're really doing to these creatures is bad. Very bad. :( An untrained dog from puppyhood could grow up to be unapproachable and temperamental, but their owners won't see this. They need to be taught - dog and human -, guided in the right way and in the correct manner in order to avoid the worst. That's how we learn, and get things right first time. So even though your intentions are kind, and you are selfless in your goals, don't deal with this alone, Zoz. Alone, you will do very little good, no matter how determined you are to put an end to the suffering. I don't doubt you as a person in the least. You're quite honourable for wanting to do something about it. 
 
Hit them where it hurts most. If you've been telling the whole truth (which I believe it is), they've got it coming... bad. 



zozane008

6:32pm May 16 2011

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If I don't get to this kitten, it'll die. Like I said, I can't have another kitten casaulty. And the ASPCA would kill the poor thing, but I know it has a good chance of surviving. And we don't have one of those where we live. Gas prices these days. >.> And if they abuse any other animals, I'll call the authorities. End of discussion.



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Detneth106

9:27pm May 16 2011 (last edited on 9:28pm May 16 2011)

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Zozo, you can't possibly know that they're simply going to put down the kitten for having a broken leg. Besides that, if it will be crippled (quite possibly if the leg has been broken for a while) and it may grow up to be vicious/have trust issues with humans due to it's kittenhood, you can't expect the poor thing to have a happy life. The humane thing could be to put it down.

And call the ASPCA? I don't live in the U.S. so I have the Humane Society (from what I know SPCA is American), but I'm fairly certain they'll do the driving if you tell them you know there's abuse going on in that area.

Gods, I'm rambling again and this probably doesn't make sense. ><

Just, don't steal it, love, since that's illegal, and call them even if it might turn out to be useless. Picking up the phone doesn't take much energy.

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Best of luck to Raven. :) 





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Wolfeira

3:00pm May 17 2011

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And even if the leg is un-repairable, who says the kitten will have to die? Our cat, before he ran away, was found on the road with his leg also broken. My mother rescued him and we took him home. After nurturing him back to health, the vet recommended we amputated the leg. The dragging weight was not helping him manouver, and if left untreated it could worsen internally - blood poisoning or something like that. It was all very scientific and clever-soudning. Anyway, after we did that, he was as right as rain. He could still run, climb trees, wrestle with the dogs in play, even climb my bunkbed ladder and actually managed to kill a rat once. 
 
I expect it would only be put down if there was absolutely no going back for the cat. A three-legged cat can be just as happy as a four-legged one. 



Anu

3:26pm May 17 2011 (last edited on 3:33pm May 18 2011)

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i have not much advise, but animal abuse is braking the law. call the police or the local authoritys. then call the rspca or someone like them. but if you were to nick the cat, then the cat could go to owner just as bad as them as you would have to go to prison (i think) so help the poor kitten.  i love cats.



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zozane008

6:48pm May 17 2011

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Thanks for the advice everyone. <3



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rdizzy1223

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Ive raised multiple litters of kittens from birth so if you ever have any questions you can rmail me. Kittens digestive systems can digest small amounts of cows milk but ive always used a powder kitten formula that you mix w water. Kittens older than 4 weeks can also eat canned cat food mixed w water really well or meat and broth baby food.
rdizzy1223

8:41pm May 17 2011 (last edited on 8:43pm May 17 2011)

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Also i would just take the kitten too. Screw the law, sometimes morality>legality.As long as you have little to no risk of being caught. I dont even believe in putting ANY cats outdoors, let alone a kitten. i have 6 cats and they are all indoor only and have full roam of my house.
Wolfeira

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I'd understand if where you lived determined the security of cats. But... wouldn't your kitties be happier if they could roam outside? I guess it also depends on the breed, seeing as some cats are naturally more outgoing than others, but you don't force them inside, do you? 



SaruSaru

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From my experience it really depends on the cat--some cats love to stay inside, others like to be outside. But most cat owners opt raise their kittens as indoor cats because it's much safer for them. My cat's an indoor/outdoor cat; he's always loved to play around outside and come back in to sleep. But most of the cats in my neighborhood are that way; we have a pretty safe neighborhood for pets. But most places typically aren't as forgiving. ;c




Tld

11:51am May 18 2011

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Dude, Zo, I know the discussion is closed, but I kind of want to pitch in: 

The ASPCA should actually know more than you, not to sound mean xD They're experienced people, and won't be like Raven's abusers, that look at a scratch and say 'yup, he's a goner'. Maybe it's hard for you to believe, but the ASPCA people, like you, want what's best for the animal, regardless of what he or she is. Trust those people. They'll obviously side with you instead of the abusers.

And yeah. Stealing a cat is against the law, obviously :c It won't just hurt you, it'll hurt Raven too. The kitty will have to handle the shock of being carried away by you into a new environment, and will still end up in the starting point. If the owners of Raven really are abusing him and not taking care of the kitten at all, then it's safe to assume that he has never experienced the outside world. Anything can shock him, from the unfamiliar smell of something to a new sound. These things have to be slow. 

Good lucks Zo, just don't get in trouble :c 




Wolfeira

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Saru - Yes, that's pretty true. I've always had cats who have enjoyed the freedom to go outside (even if all but one are gone because of roads or running away), so for some reason, I get a bit strange when people say they never lets their cats outside. I'm getting better at understanding their reasons why, of course. :) Cat's best interest and all that. Your post made sense to me. :3



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