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Wolfeira

1:35pm Aug 21 2009

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It's more thasn horrid, Wolfwinx. Whereas I can't say anything about testing medical stuff on animals, I really, really don't see the point in testing household, hair and face products on them. We've got more beauty treatment and kitchen cleaning things in the world than we need. And besides, makeup isn't that good for your skin in the long run. It can make some people feel or feel prettier, and it does give positive confidence, but I don't see anything nice about looking like an orange.



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7:39pm Aug 21 2009

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If you do have veg diet, you will have to eat more meals (this is from personal experience, I go veggie twice a month for religeous reasons). You feel hungrier faster, therefore, making you eat more. And people who don't have time can't have more meals. I only think people should become vegetarians only because they don't enjoy meat. I think it's a stupid idea to become vegetarian if you don't enjoy it, talk about throwing your life away. Humans are omnivores, it isn't that simple for us to just eat plant or to just eat animals. We need a balanced diet and therefore both plants and animals. Wolfiera, fish are animals too. They feel pain as well. Whatcha gonna say 'bout that?

Please treat seafood as an animal. This in my opinion, is contradicting your precious peta. Like monty hall said, people only want to rescue cute things. Clams, prawns and fish are all animals. What make you think you're vegetarian when you're taking their lives away?

Oh yeah, are you a vegetarian?

By the way, they are not killed slowly. Livestock get a quick and humane death, it's convinient that way. They can't get shot in the head because it will cause lead poisoning in the meat.




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Wolfeira

2:42pm Aug 23 2009

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You become veggie for two months, I eat veggie-only meals throughout the year when I don't eat fish - for my entire life. I'm used to it, therefore, I'm not hungry all the time. I'm normally full up by the time I've finished eating, thanks, and anyone can get peckish if they don't eat enough, meat or no meat. And so what if people become vegetarian? In many ways, being vegetarian is healthier - that is, unless you can cope without meat without getting ill. There's less fat in food (unless you put too much olive oil or whatever), therefore, vegetarians suffer obesity a lot less than meat-eaters.  And if we required meat so much, if it was so terribly vital, how come some people are living perfectly healthy lives without it? Vegetarians tend to live longer than meat-eaters, I also discovered.
 
And I do have a balanced diet. Just cause' I don't consume meat from a land animal, doesn't mean I'm unhealthy. I'm perfectly fine, thanks. And my whole family are aware that fish feel pain, too - that's also something we disapprove of, but when we went fishing once we didn't let the fish choke to death on the boat now, did we? We let our intrsuctor kill them for us (as we're pretty inexperienced). My family and myself are animal-lovers, all of us.
 
But, yet again, some people are perfectly happy to eat veal or other kinds of meat that has come from an animal treated unfairly, and inhumanely.
 
And I'm not thick. I do treat seafood like a kind of animal. I've seen fish and molluscs before. And I don't support PETA, thank you. I find all animals appealing in their own sort of way - and we also see prawns as a cute little animal. People simply refer to us as being veggies because we don't eat land-meat. Don't ask me why, because I know we're not pure vegetarians. But it's quite annoying, seeing people look at you funny when you say "pescetarian". So I call myself a veggie to help avoid myself eating meat when I visit friends' houses.
 
From the things I hear, a quick death is far from what they get. I don't wanna go into the details, but from what the guys in my cl*censored* talk about a programme called "Kill it, cook it, eat it", it sounds far from that. Lead poisoning? Hmm, that's a fact. And apparently, killing them by "putting them to sleep" is also inconsiderable... Looks like there isn't a proper way out of a "humane death", but it's not a problem when you don't eat land-meat.
 



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6:45pm Aug 23 2009

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I didn't just become a veggie for two months, I do it bi-monthly throughout the year. I understand it takes getting used to and eventually you won't get that kind of hunger. BUT I still don't think you should urge people be vegetarian. Even the ones that won't become ill. Young children need the protein first of all and may become ill if they don't get the nutrients (I know some people who started off as omnivores and then become veggies, for that reason). FURTHERMORE, if people didn't care about animals, why should they become vegetarian if they liked the taste of meat? You shouldn't force people to become vegetarian, I think the only reasons anyone should become vegetarian is the fact they can give up meat. Not 'cause some dumbutt was naggin' them.

Animals kill animals, don't they? We're animals, so why can't we kill animals? Bears are omnivores and could probably survive without meat, but why don't try to make them vegetarians? I guess 'cause they're wild and junk and we can't control them. But what about dogs? They're omnivores too. We can control their diet and stuff, why don't we make them kill less. For goodness sake, those suffering livestock animals are also being killed to feed them. So I guess they're as mean as us. 

Seriously, chicken and cow are our natural prey. People should only become veggies if they want to. There are no reasons that say people have to.

I hear they snap the chicken's neck to kill them quickly, in the past we slaughtered chickens (again, for religeous purposes) and used that way to kill them, quickly. I don't know how they slaughter cows, but I don't think they'll strangle them or something. I would think they would be killed as fast as possible or something. To make it convinient with the production and to make them activists shut up.




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shadowrider

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I love meat and i'll never become a vegetarian beccauseim not a big veggie person i only like a few XD

my friend became veggie for like maybe a year or so and she got so depressed and hungry and ill and even refused veggies until i shoved meat down her throat XD

I support testing on animals because some people actually really like their make up. But i dont support drug testing on animals it seems a bit wrong.

I like the taste of meat plus it keeps you nice healthy and fit.

Actually wolf i looked it up and it says vegetarians die earlier then omnivores do.

I dont support people who eat ALL meat either i eat veggies with Almost every meal.

But im not here to sit and argue about it back and forth just wanted to state my opinion ^.^




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If you were sick and in need of medicine, would you support drug testing then?



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shadowrider

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mmmmm. i dont know.... id be mroe comforatable if it wasnt tested on animals.



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Where I live, if people didn't hunt deer they would die anyway from lack of gr*censored* and other foods because there wouldn't be enough to go around. 



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