The great abortion debate >D


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Ping

11:26pm Jun 3 2010

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Yup. One of the biggest debates currently. I thought it would be fun seeing what people think about this. So are you pro-choice or pro-life?

I actually support abortions.




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Angelikins

4:09am Jun 5 2010

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I'm all for abortion. And it angers me that people want to take away everyone else's rights. "No abortion, no sex before marriage, no gay marriage, if you're not christian you're going to hell" and so on and so forth.

 Abortion is a right and if you're a male and saying that women don't have a right to abortion, please go get yourself pregnant and give birth and then spend the next 18 years paying for, feeding and teaching this child. Only then will your negative opinion be valid to me. :D




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bellagirl

9:38pm Jun 8 2010

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i hate it in my opinion. okay sure they can give it away to people who will care for it but don't dump it in a ditch so it can die



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Mythalian

2:54pm Jun 9 2010

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I agree with Angel.



Mechromancer

5:17pm Jun 9 2010

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i agree with bella they can have someone adopt it or anything else.



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SugarRush

5:52pm Jun 9 2010

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I am against abortian, but if you are in a situation which you must choose abortion, i amfine with it.



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Lolbot

6:06pm Jun 9 2010

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I am against abortion, I changed my mind whenever my friend went, got pregnant and had a child at 16 or something. She was asking me should she have an abortion, and I was all,

">:("

Anyways, she had the child, and the child was adopted by some people.

Is that not better than killing it straight-out? I mean, it is embar*censored*ing, painful and makes you go even more hormonal, I know that, but would you kill your fellow man because of that?

If you didn't want to get pregnant, you shouldn't have had sexual intercourse when you weren't ready.

If you were raped, I feel for you, but its best to take a good thing out of a bad situation.

 

Almost-Abortioned children will grow into people like you and me, human. And killing humans, in my book, is bad. Very bad.

I watched a video about a women, she was talking about abortions and the like. Very educated, very intrigueing, until somebody asked the rape question and she said,

"My father was a rapist."

Yes. She was a to-be-abortioned baby, given the right to live. So yeah, I'm supporting the Catholic Church on this one.





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Outsane

4:11pm Jun 10 2010

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I'm mostly on the fence with this one. I support it in some cases, and disagree with it in others.

Disagree:

If you are married, your husband, you, or both of you have a job and can afford to live VERY comfortably and you get pregnant, you have no right to abort the pregnancy. YOU have a responsibility with this child inside you. YOU have means to raise it in a healthy, loving home. YOU didn't make him use a condom. YOU WILL have the baby.

If you are a surrogate for a couple, then you better NOT abort, you disgusting person. These people probably can't have children on their own, or have had great difficulty. They are counting on YOU to help them start a famil, and if you suddenly decide to quit half-way... too bad, I say. Woman up and take responsibility for your actions, you wuss.

 

Support:

Women should have the option of being able to get an abortion of they are unable to bring the child up in a home where they can live healthily. Although I strongly encourage the woman who is having intercourse with her boyfriend/husband/stranger to use a condom. I support this with GREAT reluctance, but I would rather a child be born into a family that can love and care for them, rather than one where the mother will either starve herself and possibly die or the baby would.

If a woman was raped, she has every right to abort the pregnancy. She didn't ask to get impregnanted by this man. She shouldn't have to bear his child for nine months and then give birth to it. I would hate myself if I was carrying the baby of some sicko inside me. He doesn't deserve to have his sperm grow into a child if he's a reckless man with irresponsible behavior.

 

To me, adoption is not an answer, really. Too often couples want to have their child to have NO contact with the biological mother and that would devestate me. If I were unable to provide for my baby and I had to give him or her up, I would want to be able to see how he or she is growing up. It would haunt my every day to know I gave up a baby to strangers and know that I would not be able to see him or her ever again.

And even still I'd want more. So adoption is out of the question for me. lol.





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5:01pm Jun 10 2010

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I agree with Le now



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chance437

3:16pm Jun 11 2010

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I agree, Whit. Yes, I believe abortion is an abomination to life. As a Christian, I do not believe in such a horrendous affair. If you are old enough to understand how to use contraceptions,and choose to negate these and have unprotected sex, then you need to suck it up. If you're old enough to have sex you're old enough to give birth. I have a friend who is thirteen. Her and her boyfriend are in my cla.ss. They ended going out, and one thing led to another. She ended up pregnant. She was going to keep it, and she explained that if she were to abort a child of her's, and the boy's first child, she would kill herself. Unfortunately, the baby died due to an accident that devastated both people.

 

Now, I understand if rape is in the question, but the baby should not be killed because of another man's actions. The unborn child cannot choose whom his parents will be, so does it deserve to be burned, or cut of of a womb?




Outsane

10:59pm Jun 11 2010

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But why should the woman have to suffer for another man's actions?




Wolfeira

9:40am Jun 12 2010

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Tainted pretty much said everything for me...
 
If it's cut out early in development, when it cannot feel pain, then where's the problem? True, the child was innocent - he or she can't help who his parents are, and that's tough - but would you prefer to have a baby with someone you loved and wanted to live with, as opposed to a messed-up stranger? And what about overpopulation? If you're keeping the child out of pity or shame, not out of love, what benefit will it bring? Benefit and "disadvantage" probably sounds horribly heartless right now, but what'll happen to our planet if every single unwanted child is kept? Overpopulation is a global problem right now, and it's startling how few people take it into account. Really, it's becoming a serious problem, chaps. Think it over. And how might a child feel if he or she was raised in the knowledge that he or she was a "mistake"? An accident? That he or she was the product of a horrendous act? It's funny how lightly the word "rape" is p*censored*ed around these days. Is it really that amusing?
 
It's really a matter of opinion, though. If you'd like to keep the baby, then by all means, go ahead. If the father doesn't care, he has no speak in the baby's future. At all. But if you want an abortion, with a reasonable explanation to back you up - for example, rape - then have one, if you think it's best. I don't want my future destroyed by one man's unspeakable actions. I don't wanna even think about it, but I'll decide whose baby I carry, give birth to and raise, thank you very much. But if someone didn't use protection and ended up preggers, well... tough luck, girl. Your fault you didn't stop and made your borfriend think. Still, I'm confident in myself that I wouldn't be so careless. I've got sense and I'm not going to risk becoming a teenage mother. It looks too much like hard work.
 



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9:40am Jun 13 2010 (last edited on 9:53am Jun 13 2010)

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I support abortion for a very cruel reason. Let's face it, humans are over populated. We don't want to die (and so humans are near immortal), so I suppose having less born would be a better option. All this 'poor economy', 'energy crisis', 'water crisis', 'animals are going extinct' and 'political wars' are all side effects of our grotesquely large population. Dogs and cats are neutered because their population grow too quickly and puppies and kittens can't find homes (and since these animals have been domestic for thousands of years, cats and dogs die without human contact. Cat's an dogs don't go feral easily. Majority of dogs die within a week if they are outside a human environment without a human with them).

Do you like animals? Loads of animals going extinct because of humans destroying their habitat? Well, that's 'cause we're an overpopulated species that need a special environment that other animals cannot live in. We also have the ability to create that special environment. Humans aren't weak; we're a very powerful and dangerous species (but graced with the ability to help other species. Which is nice, but we've got needs and our needs come first). 

It's also kind of weird 'cause the places where humans cannot be found are places where nothing is found. And yet even if there's supposed to be nothing there, there are still one or two humans there. Seriously? What the heck is wrong with us? We're like some psycho species xD

If you are saying 'it's the parent's fault for not using contraception' well, not everyone has access to contraception. Many poorly educated people do not even know wht contraception is. It's even against some religeons to use contraception. And c'mon, have a heart. Why must one devote at least 20 years of their life to a child just because of a silly mistake? Sure, adoption is an option; but is it really the best thing for someone's life? Parents who adopt children tend to not like the adopted child as their own offspring due to natural insticts (Yes, humans have insticts. They are animals). *coughTheseinstinctsarealsothereasonwhywomengetrapedbymen...cough*

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10:51am Jun 13 2010 (last edited on 11:40am Jun 13 2010)

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... I've kinda been afraid to post here, mostly because I couldn't seem to put what I thought to words, but you just pretty much said it, Ping.

And really, living in a 'What if?' mindset is just setting you up for loads of regret. What happened happened, and what didn't happen didn't happen.




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LOL. Ping. You are amazing.




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WE ARE BASICALLY HUMAN RABBIT-CANE-TOAD-DOLPINS D<



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Pegasus

11:37am Jun 15 2010 (last edited on 11:40am Jun 15 2010)

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I do not support abortion for many reasons:

-It messes up your uterus and other reproductive parts

-Creates many mental and physical problems 

-Many women who have aborted become suicidal or lose all ability to reproduce

-You're killing a living, breathing child (Your own baby)

And other things I can't think of right now..

I know that many women cannot take care of children especially when they get pregnant at a young age, but I would much prefer to put the child up for adoption after it is born. You can also find a family yourself while being pregnant. Taking the child's life is unnecessary.

The only way I would consider it is if the child is expected to have a problem that will not enable it to have a normal life, or the mother and child is at risk of death during birth.

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As to the rape issue, I have no idea. The baby never asked to be alive, or have a rapist for a father. It's one of those situations you'd have to be in, I guess. Abortion is scary though, I'd never want to go through it. Seen the pictures :(




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I'm half and half. I hate abortion, but now, with all the pregnant teens, abortion is probably the better option. They can't just make it, like, illegal. :/ My opinion.




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5:54pm Jun 15 2010

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I'm sorry if I noggle your gozzet, but this is quite the sensitive issue.

I'm not sure if its right to kill someone to prevent 'overpopulation'. I mean, that's what the Nazis did to stop the Jews from overpopulating, theyed killed them off. Yes, I'm comparing abortion to Nazism. If you wanted to kill somebody to prevent overpopulating, there would be an immediate outcry for which group of people to kill. Let's imagine, 50% of our current generation, mainly the 90s generation, was killed in a bid to stop overpopulation. It would have probably had some pros but in the end, 50% of a generation was killed.

I understand that children being leaned to the abortion option is a much less percentage of children that 50%, but still, murder is murder. Whether you go up and stab somebody or vacuum an unborn child through your uterus. 

Also, I have the smae amount of fear of giving birth as I do having an abortion,because I hear it is extremely painful, and it would be harder for me to deal with that sort of pain knowing that I was killing something but hey, maybe that's just me.

And I must agree with you, we are a pyscho race, but it means we should thrive for long after our time. Humans are intelligent and in large groups can adapt into an enviroment, two major contributions to our success. But with the distant hope of space travel we can dump all the extra humans on Mars or wherever and get on with life. :D





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Ping

3:14am Jun 16 2010 (last edited on 3:15am Jun 16 2010)

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A scientist suggested that genocide and m*censored*ecres were good for the world since it lowers the population. I think that lowering the birth rate would've been a no brainer; dunno why he didn't think about it.

I'm not too psycho a supporter of abortion; I say if you are for it, stay that way. If you're against it, stay that way. There's no need to drag someone onto your side. Same goes for women that need to make a descision: if they're willing to abort they can go ahead. If they don't want to, they don't want to. I do not see why people are as so cruel to bash, flame and attack someone for deciding to abort a child or performing an abortion. I don't see why someone has to be labelled as 'evil' just because of a personal descision. A person in a third party should not have any right to force someone to make them go against their descision. They don't know why she decided to abort.

Oh yeah... Another 'what if' situation:

A woman become pregnant and is unable to support another child (due to her and her husband's wages or a current political situation (e.g. WW2 or something)). She already has children. If she doesn't abort and goes on to give birth to the child (then giving it away for adoption), how can she tell a child where their new sibling went?




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